posted 07-29-2004 01:15 PM         

Psyfalcon: If you could do the Spot Race summaries, that would be great. The only thing that concerns me about you doing it is that you asked for a template, but I do all my HTML coding in plain text with MS WordPad, so there isn't really a FrontPage/DreamWeaver template where you can just fill in the blanks. Take a look at the source code and you should see what I mean.

posted 07-30-2004 03:48 AM         

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Originally posted by Psyfalcon:
I didnt mean a Dreamweaver program or the similar. I too make all my webpages in notepad, but I've never really went in far enough to make the pages pretty or seem professionally designed.

Since a few are done, the layout is finished, and it becomes mostly data entry. I'll do a test run later.

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posted 07-30-2004 10:31 PM         

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Originally posted by Psyfalcon:
Hmm, the cell coloration that I see for the spot races does not display in Firefox. I only get a grey box with the results.

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I just installed Firefox 0.9.1 to test this.

The cell coloring comes from a Cascading Style Sheet that is in another file - http://www.santiago22.com/gtbn4/gtbn.css - and it seems that Firefox doesn't read the setting. I know it's reading the file, though, because the background (grey) is showing correctly.

This reminds me of the last time I tried Netscape - I deleted it because it didn't read CSS.

posted 08-14-2004 05:11 AM         

Still having that issue with Mozilla Firefox not reading the CSS entries for the row coloring like IE does. I'm currently trying to figure out how to sort of trick the browser by loading a different CSS file specifically designed for Mozilla, but the best (and only haha) way I know how to implement it would be with a JavaScript, but I'm concerned about any users here that run their browsers with JS disabled.

On a brighter note, I think I've finally decided on a color scheme once and for all. When I spoke with GB earlier today (well yesterday afternoon), I told him this scheme (black text on light grey background) is the best design I think I've had so far and I'm thoroughly happy with it. In addition, I've updated the navigation bars to run horizontally under the header, rather than down the left side. This leaves more space for the main frame, and the layout of the nav bars just plain looks awesome-cool I think .

Comments or questions? Discuss.

posted 08-14-2004 09:00 AM         

Good news: After pulling my hair (figuratively), kicking, screaming, and thinking all sorts of nasty things about Mozilla Firefox, I finally figured out the problem, and as it happens, it wasn't a Firefox issue at all.

When I first learned how to do Cascading Style Sheets (CSS), I was strictly an IE user. I had based nearly every site design I did during that period on CSS implementation. After a while, I decided to try Netscape again. I found it didn't support CSS (or so I thought at the time), and promptly deleted it.

A few months ago, I deciding to try Firefox, to see if the whole Netscape/Mozilla system had improved, and during a time when IE security exploits were running rampant on the 'net. Figured it was a good time and a good idea to get used to Firefox. However, I was still frustrated by my perceived lack of support for CSS.

Anyway, the way I had my styles defined for the Spot Race Summaries was:

code:

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TR.0  { background-color: #DDDDDD; color: #000000; }
TR.1  { background-color: #806C00; color: #FFFFFF; }
TR.2  { background-color: #5E5E5E; color: #FFFFFF; }
TR.3  { background-color: #590007; color: #FFFFFF; }
TR.dq { background-color: #990000; color: #FFFFFF; }
TR.hr { background-color: #0000FF; }

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Basically, the TR is an HTML tag that the style is to affect. (TR starts a new row in a table.) background-color sets the color of the background (bet you never would have guessed ; the #DDDDDD is a light grey; #000000 is black; #FFFFFF is white; #0000FF is a bright blue; #806C00, #5E5E5E, #590007, and #990000 are shades of gold, silver, bronze, and red, respectively), and color sets the color of the text. The .0, .1, .2, etc. are subtypes for TR tags, and are called as follows:

code:

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<tr class="0">
<td>some text</td></tr>
<tr class="1">
<td>some text</td></tr>
<tr class="2">
<td>some text</td></tr>
<tr class="3">
<td>some text</td></tr>

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Basically, the class="0" tells the browser to use the style defined by TR.0, the class="1" tells it to use TR.1, and so on.

Well after much frustration and searching the web for an answer, I found a page on the World Wide Web Consortium (aka W3C; they are in charge of the specification for HTML and CSS, basically any website programming technology, and dictate how such things should work) website that checks a page to make sure its code is valid. Well, I ran it on my style sheet file and all the subtypes defined by numbers came out invalid. Being surprised by this, I prefixed the numbers with ln, so they would start with letters instead, then edited a sample page to test it. Lo and behold, the change worked! Firefox was now displaying the pages as I had intended the whole time. Of course, now I have to re-train myself to not define a subtype strictly by a number :/, but at least I've figured out how to get it to work as I want it.

Maybe Firefox/Netscape isn't such a bad browser after all...

(That concludes this session of HTML 202: Cascading Style Sheets )

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posted 08-16-2004 07:52 AM         

Popped in to see how the site design was going and got a freebie lesson in HTML to boot ... excellent .

posted 09-11-2004 03:22 PM         

So, I figure I'll work on the Driver Bios section. If you want your Bio on the site, just fill out the following information, and post it here or e-mail it to levinracer22(at)yahoo(dot)com with the subject line "GTBN Driver Bio for (your forum name)" :

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Name: (your real first and last name, however you want it mentioned on the site)
Date of Birth: (month, date, and year)
Birthplace: (where you were born)
Current Residence: (where you live now)

GTRC Team: (self-explanatory)
GTRC Number: (ditto)

Career Overview: (your online racing history at GTBN)

Other: (anything else you'd like mentioned)

[edit] *DESIRED BUT OPTIONAL* a photograph of yourself, like this one.

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That's all for now.

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posted 09-11-2004 06:15 PM         

But I'm having a problem sorting out the order of the GTRC seasons based on the pages. I'm trying to put them all in chronological order, but I can't seem to figure which ones go where.

Who wants to post each season of the GTRC, and when it took place for me? Please?

posted 09-15-2004 01:48 PM         

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Originally posted by Santiago22:
Who wants to post each season of the GTRC, and when it took place for me? Please?

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posted 09-15-2004 05:45 PM         

Thoasiii would know best about the older ones... I know that what is labelled GT3 Class (Small Bore) was the 'Original' GTRC... all other classes came later.

If you look in all the class results, you'll see they all have a "Season 'A'" and a "Season 'B'". That was the FIRST time that the GTRC had all the classes: GT1, GT2, GT3, and GT4. It was also the first season that used Gran Turismo 2. Everthing listed prior to that was with Gran Turismo... the original. The "A" and "B" seasons were in the Spring and Summer of the year 2000.

GTRC 2001 and GTRC 2002 are the ones that I directed.... those were with Gran Turismo 3.

posted 09-16-2004 03:13 AM         

Of course, that was a few hours ago. I'm now trying to figure out how the usergroups work, and the private forums, so when GB launches the new forum, that the team forums won't suddenly become public.

Man, this thing is advanced. Wish I was more familiar with PHP than I am, 'cause I hate the layout of some of the things on the demo pages, and wish it looked more like what we have.

Now before anyone asks why we're getting brand-new forum software if the forum is going to look pretty much the same, we're getting it for features, not appearance. Our current layout is pretty clean, but this software lacks some much-desired features (Private Messaging, Sticky Threads, Avatars, and the like).

Hopefully I can figure this stuff out in case we need an extra head around this. Figured I'd take the initiative since GB, by his own admission, doesn't understand all this stuff.

In other news, I sure do miss the GT3 Database. I wonder if we could put one together for the new site.

Then again, maybe I should finish the conversion before considering new site features. haha

posted 09-16-2004 04:59 AM         

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Originally posted by Santiago22:
I'm now trying to figure out how the usergroups work, and the private forums, so when GB launches the new forum, that the team forums won't suddenly become public.

Man, this thing is advanced. Wish I was more familiar with PHP than I am, 'cause I hate the layout of some of the things on the demo pages, and wish it looked more like what we have.

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And I just figured out how to edit the templates and make forums private.

I'm going to sleep now. Good night, my comrades.

posted 09-16-2004 07:43 AM         

Well done that man :tup:.

posted 09-16-2004 04:47 PM         

http://www.santiago22.com/gtbn4/forumindex.png
http://www.santiago22.com/gtbn4/forumdisplay.png
http://www.santiago22.com/gtbn4/showthread.png

I'm not crazy about the colors, but I didn't spend too long on it. What do you think?

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posted 09-16-2004 06:35 PM         

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Originally posted by eggmann:
Aside from the colors, and the fact that we can never make it look like "this" board, it's BEAUTIFUL!

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It's supposed to go with the Volume 4 pages... mostly, I wasn't crazy about that lavender, but I liked the gray and the dark blue.

Now that I've figured out the templates, I could actually make it look exactly like this board, but one, what's the point of upgrading for new features if you don't use them at all, and two, I'll have to edit about every single template to do that, and I don't want to do that. I can only do so much.

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Originally posted by GT3mich:
I like it too. Where are the private team sections or did I miss them?

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The private team sections are there. When I took those pics, I was logged in as GB24Hours (hahaha), and to figure out how to set the access privileges for the private forums, I had to figure out how to only allow certain users to see them. The Bridge forum is actually a private forum, which the user GB24Hours is allowed access to, and so it shows up in the list. Team Numbers, Auto-Union, Longshots International, and the like are still there, but I didn't have any users set up that were allowed access, so the forums were hidden by the software. Someone who only has access to, say, Button's Brigade and Team Numbers doesn't really need to see all the other forums.

I'm not sure how GB wants it set up when we actually *do* get the upgrade, but I've figured out where everything is, so all he has to do is either tell me how he wants it so I can set it up, or have me teach him how to set it up so he can do it.

posted 09-27-2004 12:53 AM         

Please see my last diary entry, S!

posted 10-02-2004 05:21 AM         

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Originally quoted by Darrell Waltrip during the 2004 Pepsi 400: Monkey see.....monkey do.....monkey learn.

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posted 11-09-2004 06:34 PM         

Just a quick note to tell you that I've FINALLY got around to trimming a pic of me to add to the profiles section of your growing GTBN site.

It's been uploaded to your file serving area (kind chap that you are :tup: ) with the filename of:
http://www.santiago22.com/upload/files/profiles_pic.jpg

Feel free to trim and adapt it to your needs (you can't make me look any worse than I am in RL ).

posted 11-17-2004 12:04 AM         

(If that post over at GTX had been here instead, I'd swear you were trying to suck-up to me or somethin'!)

posted 11-17-2004 02:41 AM         

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Originally posted by GB24Hours:
Anyway, things are a bit slow here atm as you can see.... but yes, changes are in the works. Just waiting for me to take action, I guess.

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More like waiting for me to finish the silly spot race pages... :/

I work on like 3 other websites, so, I've been spending so much time in HTML code lately that I kinda got burned out on in and got lazy. Guess I have to start working on Volume 4 again.

Why does being lazy have to be so danged fun?

posted 11-17-2004 08:16 AM         

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Originally posted by Santiago22:

Why does being lazy have to be so danged fun?

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posted 11-17-2004 06:54 PM         

More later.

posted 11-22-2004 03:34 PM         

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posted 11-22-2004 07:07 PM         

On a more ego-centric note, thank you also for the very flattering write-up in the Driver Bio's.

Given the frustration I've felt trying to put something togther for the latest '9 Boards' series it did me the world of good to be reminded of past efforts. I'm honoured.