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eggmann 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1582 From:Asphalt Kannibals #94, Maple Grove, Minnesota, USA Registered: Aug 2003	posted 10-22-2003 09:28 PM Yeah that's true. Then how about a Blue G and Red T on the left to complement the 4 on the right, as in GT4? IP: Logged
SportWagon 1st Lieutenant Posts: 92 From:Punkeydoodles Corners, Ontario, Canada (aka GT2toXS) Registered: Mar 2001	posted 10-23-2003 01:13 PM quote: Originally posted by Santiago22: Uhhhh, what for? I can't do that 'cause it hide the logo/masthead. That picture is actually one of 7 loaded by a random-image generating JavaScript. If I use NOSCRIPT around that, well, the script doesn't run and you get an empty frame. For paranoid people who run with JavaScript disabled, who currently do get an empty frame. Don't put <NOSCRIPT> around everything; put it in a container beside the <SCRIPT> (I.e. assume everything inside <SCRIPT> containers will be invisible to those who see the <NOSCRIPT>). The stuff inside <NOSCRIPT> container will be totally ignored if JavaScript is on, and so will have no more effect on the page than would a couple of empty source lines. [This message has been edited by SportWagon (edited 10-23-2003).] IP: Logged
eggmann 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1582 From:Asphalt Kannibals #94, Maple Grove, Minnesota, USA Registered: Aug 2003	posted 10-23-2003 03:19 PM I get dizzy reading the whole Title frame... The letters seem to all blend together. Especially "The Internet's Premiere..." IP: Logged
Santiago22 Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2005 From:Riverside, CA USA Registered: Apr 2003	posted 10-23-2003 11:06 PM quote: Originally posted by SportWagon: For paranoid people who run with JavaScript disabled, who currently do get an empty frame. Don't put NOSCRIPT around everything; put it in a container beside the SCRIPT (I.e. assume everything inside SCRIPT containers will be invisible to those who see the NOSCRIPT). The stuff inside NOSCRIPT container will be totally ignored if JavaScript is on, and so will have no more effect on the page than would a couple of empty source lines. So you mean do something like this: < script language=javascript > // Loads a random logo pic blah blah blah < /script > < noscript > < img src='images/gtbn_logo1.jpg' width='542' height='109' alt='Gran Turismo By Numbers - Volume 4' border='0' > < /noscript > ... so people with JS enabled see the random pic and people that run JS off see a static one? Am I getting that right? quote: Originally posted by eggmann: I get dizzy reading the whole Title frame... The letters seem to all blend together. Especially "The Internet's Premiere..." Yeah, I noticed that... I think I'm going to change the font there... think it's an issue with Photoshop's anti-aliasing routines. [This message has been edited by Santiago22 (edited 10-23-2003).] IP: Logged
SportWagon 1st Lieutenant Posts: 92 From:Punkeydoodles Corners, Ontario, Canada (aka GT2toXS) Registered: Mar 2001	posted 10-24-2003 03:34 PM quote: Originally posted by Santiago22: So you mean do something like this: < script language=javascript > // Loads a random logo pic blah blah blah < /script > < noscript > < img src='images/gtbn_logo1.jpg' width='542' height='109' alt='Gran Turismo By Numbers - Volume 4' border='0' > < /noscript > ... so people with JS enabled see the random pic and people that run JS off see a static one? Am I getting that right? Yup. Exactly. IP: Logged
GB24Hours Captain Posts: 5801 From:Ormond Beach, Florida, USA Registered: Feb 2000	posted 10-24-2003 05:47 PM S22, thanks for your work on this.... however, I think you're finding out why 'design by committee' doesn't work. I liked it better with black, personally. And although many people think it's intrusive, I like it when the forum opens in a new window.... that way you can easily click back to the 'gateway' page to go somewhere else. I'm not a fan of too many things opening within the frame.... I just thought if we used the center section for news and things, it could have it's own scroll bar while leaving the rest of the links in one place. But really, everybody likes things a bit different. Design it the way YOU think it ought to be, James.... if you go by democracy, it will NEVER be right. IP: Logged
eggmann 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1582 From:Asphalt Kannibals #94, Maple Grove, Minnesota, USA Registered: Aug 2003	posted 10-24-2003 06:01 PM quote: Originally posted by eggmann: I agree about the white on black; maybe go for a light grey instead? For what it's worth (not much I'm sure ), I liked the black better too. I meant light grey instead of white. Like maybe F0F1F0 / Gray95. You may already have access to a bunch of colors, but just in case here's a page with almost 5000 different colors: http://www.jagular.com/colors.shtml IP: Logged
Santiago22 Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2005 From:Riverside, CA USA Registered: Apr 2003	posted 10-25-2003 03:44 AM quote: Originally posted by GB24Hours: S22, thanks for your work on this.... however, I think you're finding out why 'design by committee' doesn't work. I liked it better with black, personally. And although many people think it's intrusive, I like it when the forum opens in a new window.... that way you can easily click back to the 'gateway' page to go somewhere else. I'm not a fan of too many things opening within the frame.... I just thought if we used the center section for news and things, it could have it's own scroll bar while leaving the rest of the links in one place. But really, everybody likes things a bit different. Design it the way YOU think it ought to be, James.... if you go by democracy, it will NEVER be right. LOL GB! I actually put the forum in a frame using the same browser window because I personally find it kind of cumbersome and annoying to have to switch windows when both are on the same site... if I'm reading the forum, I'm usually not reading anything else on the site... seems kind of redundant to me. Plus, fewer taskbar icons = win quote: Originally posted by eggmann: For what it's worth (not much I'm sure ), I liked the black better too. I meant light grey instead of white. Like maybe F0F1F0 / Gray95. You may already have access to a bunch of colors, but just in case here's a page with almost 5000 different colors: http://www.jagular.com/colors.shtml You dork, I spent like an hour and a half changing it to dark text on a light grey background, and now you tell me it's not what you wanted?! That's it! My next update, I'm coding a page that will read your forum cookie and give you huge pink text on a lime green background! MUHAHAHHAHAHA (just kidding ) IP: Logged
Santiago22 Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2005 From:Riverside, CA USA Registered: Apr 2003	posted 11-10-2003 03:51 AM Wow... amazing how someone can set themselves on a project and be all gung-ho about it for 3 weeks and then just completely forget the project exists. I still want to finish this, if only for the purpose of finishing - I have a bad habit of starting projects, but never seeing them through to completion. So, with that in mind... To Do List: ================================================== 1. Design new logo (see end of page 1) 2. Implement NOSCRIPT per SportWagon's suggestion 3. Adjust slogan text on logo (*Verdana 10pt bold italic maybe?) 4. Change colors BACK to light text on black background because I* think that looks better than dark on grey 5. ... 6. Profit? Ummm... an unspecified amount of lost sleep? ------------------ Santiago22 // Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec Straightaways are for fast cars. Corners are for fast drivers! Eat asphalt. Drink fuel. Spit oil. Belch fire. Race to live. Live to race. *Button's Brigade* - The track is ours. You may have it when we're done. *#92* - Youth and treachery will overcome old age and experience. - [This message has been edited by Santiago22 (edited 11-10-2003).] IP: Logged
Santiago22 Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2005 From:Riverside, CA USA Registered: Apr 2003	posted 11-26-2003 04:25 AM Originally posted by Santiago22 (with some edits): To Do List: ================================================== 1. Design new logo (see end of page 1) ~~2. Implement NOSCRIPT per SportWagon's suggestion~~ Done! ~~3. Adjust slogan text on logo (*Verdana 10pt bold italic maybe?)~~ Done! ~~4. Change colors BACK to light text on black background because I* think that looks better than dark on grey~~ Done! 5. ... 6. Profit? Ummm... an unspecified amount of lost sleep? - And the bill for the antibiotics the Dr. prescribed me for my respiratory infection. Being sick = the suck click here ------------------ Santiago22 // Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec Straightaways are for fast cars. Corners are for fast drivers! Eat asphalt. Drink fuel. Spit oil. Belch fire. Race to live. Live to race. *Button's Brigade* - The track is ours. You may have it when we're done. *#92* - Youth and treachery will overcome old age and experience. - [This message has been edited by Santiago22 (edited 11-26-2003).] IP: Logged
GB24Hours Captain Posts: 5801 From:Ormond Beach, Florida, USA Registered: Feb 2000	posted 11-26-2003 11:18 AM IP: Logged
Santiago22 Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2005 From:Riverside, CA USA Registered: Apr 2003	posted 11-26-2003 06:08 PM Need logo ideas... I've never been good at designing logos... help? IP: Logged
Gunner 1st Lieutenant Posts: 552 From: Registered: Jun 2001	posted 12-09-2003 02:06 PM I did one. I don't know if it'd look good at the top of the page though, might need to resize stuff. if you want to see it, post your email. ------------------ IP: Logged
Santiago22 Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2005 From:Riverside, CA USA Registered: Apr 2003	posted 12-09-2003 07:19 PM quote: Originally posted by Gunner: I did one. I don't know if it'd look good at the top of the page though, might need to resize stuff. if you want to see it, post your email. redline652 at yahoo dot com thx Gunner ------------------ Santiago22 // Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec Straightaways are for fast cars. Corners are for fast drivers! Eat asphalt. Drink fuel. Spit oil. Belch fire. Race to live. Live to race. :) *Button's Brigade* - The track is ours. You may have it when we're done. :mad: *#92* - Youth and treachery will overcome old age and experience. - :) IP: Logged
Gunner 1st Lieutenant Posts: 552 From: Registered: Jun 2001	posted 12-09-2003 07:43 PM no prob. except I just read your post on the 1st page, doesn't really fit I don't think. edit-unless I change the car into a simple form of graphic. [This message has been edited by Gunner (edited 12-09-2003).] IP: Logged
Santiago22 Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2005 From:Riverside, CA USA Registered: Apr 2003	posted 12-09-2003 08:59 PM quote: Originally posted by Gunner: no prob. except I just read your post on the 1st page, doesn't really fit I don't think. edit-unless I change the car into a simple form of graphic. Send it anyway, I might be able to do something with it. IP: Logged
Gunner 1st Lieutenant Posts: 552 From: Registered: Jun 2001	posted 12-09-2003 09:11 PM should be in your email. IP: Logged
Santiago22 Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2005 From:Riverside, CA USA Registered: Apr 2003	posted 12-10-2003 12:29 AM quote: Originally posted by Gunner: should be in your email. Mail received... that's actually really good... I was needing a logo that could potentially replace the one we currently have here on the forums... If you could e-mail me the font (or tell me what it's called), I'd appreciate it. I'd probably change the car, though - want to have something that's actually in GT. Thanks much, Gunner. IP: Logged
Gunner 1st Lieutenant Posts: 552 From: Registered: Jun 2001	posted 12-10-2003 08:46 AM no prob. sent the font, I don't think you'd have it. I knew I should of used a mclaren. IP: Logged
Santiago22 Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2005 From:Riverside, CA USA Registered: Apr 2003	posted 12-10-2003 12:41 PM heheheh, it's okay... I'm looking for some GT3 pics of some good-ol' American Muscle... like, Corvette, Viper, Shelby Cobra, etc... too many imports (Japanese, specifically) on the current design. IP: Logged
GT3mich Officer of the Bridge Posts: 5314 From:Blackout, Michigan Registered: Aug 2002	posted 12-10-2003 12:45 PM Try here-> http://www.gtplanet.net/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=gt3 ------------------ *Button's Brigade #23* Fall Touring Car Series II IP: Logged
Santiago22 Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2005 From:Riverside, CA USA Registered: Apr 2003	posted 12-10-2003 03:40 PM and GT3mich has shown me the mother load ------------------ Santiago22 // Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec Straightaways are for fast cars. Corners are for fast drivers! Eat asphalt. Drink fuel. Spit oil. Belch fire. Race to live. Live to race. :) *Button's Brigade* - The track is ours. You may have it when we're done. :mad: *#92* - Youth and treachery will overcome old age and experience. - :) IP: Logged
Santiago22 Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2005 From:Riverside, CA USA Registered: Apr 2003	posted 01-22-2004 10:51 PM nudge To Do List: ================================================== 1. Design new logo (see end of page 1) * this is being worked on at the moment 2. Update old pages (GTRC History, Driver Bios, etc.) to new design. * Any body that wants their bio on the site, post here and say so, will discuss details. 3. ... 4. Profit? * Ummm... an unspecified amount of lost sleep? * The bill for the antibiotics the Dr. prescribed me for that respiratory infection I had a while back. * Registration Fee for Bullet Proof FTP - it's about time I pay them for their efforts click here ------------------ Santiago22 // Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec Straightaways are for fast cars. Corners are for fast drivers! Eat asphalt. Drink fuel. Spit oil. Belch fire. Race to live. Live to race. *Button's Brigade* - The track is ours. You may have it when we're done. *#92* - Youth and treachery will overcome old age and experience. - [This message has been edited by Santiago22 (edited 01-22-2004).] IP: Logged
GT3mich Officer of the Bridge Posts: 5314 From:Blackout, Michigan Registered: Aug 2002	posted 01-22-2004 11:26 PM Looks good James. IP: Logged
GB24Hours Captain Posts: 5801 From:Ormond Beach, Florida, USA Registered: Feb 2000	posted 01-22-2004 11:39 PM Love it. IP: Logged
eggmann 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1582 From:Asphalt Kannibals #94, Maple Grove, Minnesota, USA Registered: Aug 2003	posted 01-23-2004 12:14 AM Wants b/o on site Ohhhh, you said bio! Sure, I can do that too. IP: Logged
hunthicks 1st Lieutenant Posts: 476 From:Nova Scotia Cnada Registered: Mar 2000	posted 01-24-2004 02:00 AM So when's this gonna be implemented? cause I just love it. And you mentioned something about bios, post mine fer sure. Later guys! ------------------ "Well, I learned that hitting the wall isn't the most fun thing to do............." IP: Logged
Santiago22 Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2005 From:Riverside, CA USA Registered: Apr 2003	posted 01-24-2004 09:38 AM K, eggmann and hunthicks, I'll contact you both regarding the details. As for the site, it will go up "when it's done" ------------------ Santiago22 // Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec Straightaways are for fast cars. Corners are for fast drivers! Eat asphalt. Drink fuel. Spit oil. Belch fire. Race to live. Live to race. :) *Button's Brigade* - The track is ours. You may have it when we're done. :mad: *#92* - Youth and treachery will overcome old age and experience. - :) IP: Logged
GB24Hours Captain Posts: 5801 From:Ormond Beach, Florida, USA Registered: Feb 2000	posted 01-24-2004 11:33 AM With my limited input, Gilles27 came up with a bio page for individual drivers... if I remember to, I'll actually put one together, and load it to the site, then give you the URL so you can look at it and see what you think, James. IP: Logged
Santiago22 Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2005 From:Riverside, CA USA Registered: Apr 2003	posted 01-24-2004 06:19 PM Sounds good, GB. IP: Logged
Santiago22 Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2005 From:Riverside, CA USA Registered: Apr 2003	posted 07-28-2004 07:41 PM bump IP: Logged
Santiago22 Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2005 From:Riverside, CA USA Registered: Apr 2003	posted 07-28-2004 07:46 PM quote: Originally posted by Random in another thread: Blue text on black background is really hard to read, FYI. What would you say to a lighter blue... or maybe chuck the dark scheme totally and go with a dark text/light background scheme? ^ above question open to all posters ^ To Do List: ======================================== 1. Design new logo (see end of page 1) 2. Update old pages (GTRC History, Driver Bios, etc.) to new design. 3. ... 4. Profit? Checklist & Status: ======================================== 1. I assume that Fud is on this one. 2a. I had planned on posting all the Spot Race results the Spot Race History section, but it's taking so long to reproduce them, I may just scratch the idea entirely. 2b. I have a format in mind for Driver Bios, but I haven't started working on this section yet. Anybody that wants their bio on the site, post here and say so, will discuss details. eggmann (and hunthicks?) are on this list. 2c. Work on the GTRC History section has yet to start. 3. ... 4a. Ummm... an unspecified amount of lost sleep? 4b. The bill for the antibiotics the Dr. prescribed me for that respiratory infection I had many months ago. 4c. Registration Fee for Bullet Proof FTP ------------------ Santiago22 Button's Brigade - GTRCLite 2004 CHAMPIONS - The team's the thing. [ aim: levin racer 22 \| icq: 8267515 \| web: http://www.santiago22.com/ ] Check out: [ Driver Bios \| GTBN T-Shirts \| GTBN IRC Chat \| GTBN F1 Fantasy League ] [ Online Racing \| GT3 Trivia \| The X-Port Thread \| MK's Garage Editor thread \| GT4 Discussions ] [This message has been edited by Santiago22 (edited 07-28-2004).] IP: Logged
Random 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1066 From:Davis, CA, USA Registered: Dec 1999	posted 07-28-2004 08:48 PM In complete opposition to my preference for white numbers on a black background in my car, my reading preference is for dark text on a light background. IP: Logged
Santiago22 Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2005 From:Riverside, CA USA Registered: Apr 2003	posted 07-28-2004 09:36 PM quote: Originally posted by Random: In complete opposition to my preference for white numbers on a black background in my car, my reading preference is for dark text on a light background. Actually, I just switched it back to dark text on light background, and tweaked a few other things (mainly the news page layout), and I think it's quite possibly the best layout/scheme so far since I started this project. Comments? ------------------ Santiago22 Button's Brigade - GTRCLite 2004 CHAMPIONS - The team's the thing. [ aim: levin racer 22 \| icq: 8267515 \| web: http://www.santiago22.com/ ] Check out: [ Driver Bios \| GTBN T-Shirts \| GTBN IRC Chat \| GTBN F1 Fantasy League ] [ Online Racing \| GT3 Trivia \| The X-Port Thread \| MK's Garage Editor thread \| GT4 Discussions ] [This message has been edited by Santiago22 (edited 07-28-2004).] IP: Logged
GB24Hours Captain Posts: 5801 From:Ormond Beach, Florida, USA Registered: Feb 2000	posted 07-28-2004 10:14 PM As I said before, it is IMPOSSIBLE to design by committee.... do what you KNOW is best, James. Also, Gilles did a Bio templete many moons ago for me... I just never got around to making the pages for everyone. http://www.granturismobynumbers.com/Bios/gilles27_bio.htm He even did a cool "Photo Not Available" thing for those people who, uh, no photo is available for. A quick adjustment of the colors to the new theme, and the NEW Bio pages templete is done. I envisioned a simple page of text links of the members names in alphabetical order and you click on them to take you to their Bio, like G27's above. IP: Logged
Santiago22 Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2005 From:Riverside, CA USA Registered: Apr 2003	posted 07-29-2004 12:43 AM quote: Originally posted by GB24Hours: As I said before, it is IMPOSSIBLE to design by committee.... do what you KNOW is best, James. Also, Gilles did a Bio templete many moons ago for me... I just never got around to making the pages for everyone. http://www.granturismobynumbers.com/Bios/gilles27_bio.htm He even did a cool "Photo Not Available" thing for those people who, uh, no photo is available for. A quick adjustment of the colors to the new theme, and the NEW Bio pages templete is done. I envisioned a simple page of text links of the members names in alphabetical order and you click on them to take you to their Bio, like G27's above. That's just the problem, Glenn - I don't know which scheme is best. That's why this is about the 37,890,572,894,592,646,892,374,932,798,479th time I've switched the colors. Fortunately, I'm feeling really good about the look right now, so it might actually stay like that . Bio Page looks good... I can convert that pretty quickly . ------------------ Santiago22 Button's Brigade - GTRCLite 2004 CHAMPIONS - The team's the thing. [ aim: levin racer 22 \| icq: 8267515 \| web: http://www.santiago22.com/ ] Check out: [ Driver Bios \| GTBN T-Shirts \| GTBN IRC Chat \| GTBN F1 Fantasy League ] [ Online Racing \| GT3 Trivia \| The X-Port Thread \| MK's Garage Editor thread \| GT4 Discussions ] IP: Logged
Psyfalcon 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1797 From:UVM Registered: Apr 2002	posted 07-29-2004 01:40 AM I like this verion, black on grey. I noticed though, "Volume 4" seems a bit light compared to the other links on the left side. (or even the blue block within the same graphic?). Perhaps that should be corrected for continuity? I really like the spot race histories (although it reminded me, it seems all my OL wins come in F1 cars ) IP: Logged
Santiago22 Officer of the Bridge Posts: 2005 From:Riverside, CA USA Registered: Apr 2003	posted 07-29-2004 02:15 AM quote: Originally posted by Psyfalcon: I noticed though, "Volume 4" seems a bit light compared to the other links on the left side. (or even the blue block within the same graphic?). Perhaps that should be corrected for continuity? I really like the spot race histories (although it reminded me, it seems all my OL wins come in F1 cars ) The "Volume 4" is intended to be a bit lighter than the link color - due to Photoshop's anti-aliasing, the text comes out a bit clearer with a slightly lighter color. It is, however, the exact color of the blue block in the same image. Sadly, the Spot Race histories take a very long time to compose, and as a result, this portion of the project may be scrapped entirely. Each one takes approximately 20 minutes to half and hour, and I still have more than 60 races left to get through. That's a minimum of 20 hours of composing for just that section. By comparison, it took me only about 5 to 6 minutes to convert Gilles27's bio page, and there is far less data that needs to be changed for each page to do the bios. ------------------ Santiago22 Button's Brigade - GTRCLite 2004 CHAMPIONS - The team's the thing. [ aim: levin racer 22 \| icq: 8267515 \| web: http://www.santiago22.com/ ] Check out: [ Driver Bios \| GTBN T-Shirts \| GTBN IRC Chat \| GTBN F1 Fantasy League ] [ Online Racing \| GT3 Trivia \| The X-Port Thread \| MK's Garage Editor thread \| GT4 Discussions ] IP: Logged
e'X-driver Crew Member Posts: 27 From:austin texas Registered: Jul 2004	posted 07-29-2004 04:54 AM hey i have a good 1 i maed but i dont know how to post it on the forum form my comp can any 1 help if you want to know it's of (DBGT) goku saying hey i thot my show was named GT WTF!?!?!?!?!?! i thing it's funny as hell but you may not get it cus you may not watch dragonball GT [This message has been edited by e'X-driver (edited 07-29-2004).] IP: Logged
Psyfalcon 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1797 From:UVM Registered: Apr 2002	posted 07-29-2004 04:55 AM It dosent look that bad, although I imagine it is a lot of data imput. That said, if you're looking to outsource, I am a college student, who should have plenty of time to plug data into a template. (with enough html experience to make those small changes that would be needed inbetween the differnet spots) IP: Logged

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