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Froggy
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From:Milton, ON, Canada
Registered: Aug 2004

posted 06-13-2005 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Froggy     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Cheers and congrats on completing the game to 100% without warming up the B-Spec driver at all!

Yeah!

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miko
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posted 06-13-2005 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for miko     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
48 hours now without touching GT. I fired up my copy of Mercenaries as I had only got about half way through before GT4 finally came out. Definitely a change of pace driving around in Humvees, tanks and the like. LOL!

I'm off to Europe for real today - 2 weeks in the UK for AGMs etc. so this should give the attorneys amongst you a chance to catch up on the points stakes. I wouldn't want to demoralize you too much by slapping on another 10k points too quickly. LOL

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Lugnut
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posted 06-13-2005 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lugnut     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by miko:
I'm off to Europe for real today - 2 weeks in the UK for AGMs etc. so this should give the attorneys amongst you a chance to catch up on the points stakes. I wouldn't want to demoralize you too much by slapping on another 10k points too quickly. LOL

In an odd juxtaposition/coincidence, I'm also leaving for a two week business trip, commencing in one week. So unfortunately, I won't have that catchup window at all. Enjoy your time in Europe. It will undoubtedly be more interesting than where I'll spend my two weeks.

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miko
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posted 07-05-2005 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for miko     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I'm back but with nothing to report from a GT perspective. I will however post a warning to all of you chaps before you let your significant others loose on GT4...

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Santiago22
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posted 07-06-2005 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Santiago22     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
*chuckles*

Good to have you back, Mister Vice President.

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miko
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posted 07-06-2005 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for miko     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
For personal reference I am in the process of tabulating my endeavors to date across the whole spectrum of racing available in GT4. This will enable me to see at a glance where the ‘low A-Spec Points fruit’ is.

Edit note: I've decided to re-insert the table here in its current state so that I have a historical record as at 100% game completion (knowing that the 4WD, K-Cup, Japan lightweight and Copen races have already been updated). Future updates on the A-Spec Point trail will be recorded in the table within the Resource Section.

Beginner Hall
SeriesCourseA-SpecCar
Sunday CupAutumn Ring Mini Rev68?
Driving Park Beginner86 ?
High Speed Ring83?
Clubman SSR5 Rev48?
Twin Ring Motegi West43?
FF ChallengeMidfield Rev74Mazda Kusabi ‘03
Suzuka East72"
Hong Kong Rev72"
Grand Valley East70"
Twin Ring Motegi East72"
FR ChallengeSeattle111Pontiac Solstice Coupe ‘02
Tsukuba110"
SSR 5112"
Laguna Seca106"
Motorland Rev97"
MR ChallengeBeginner Course91Hyundai HCD6 ‘01
Autumn Ring Rev92"
New York Rev55Honda NSX-R Concept ‘01
Fuji Speedway 90’s70"
El Capitan92Hyundai HCD6 ‘01
4WD ChallengeGrand Valley East200Lancia Delta HF Integrale ‘91
Autumn Ring Mini Rev200"
Suzuka East200"
El Capitan Rev185"
Fuji Speedway 90’s200"
Lightweight CupMotorland67Daihatsu Copen Active Top ‘02
Tsukuba72"
Beginner Course60"
Spider & RoadsterTwin Ring Motegi East37?
Trial Mountain Rev77?
Infineon Sports25?
Sports Truck RaceFuji Speedway 90’s10Toyota Tacoma X-Runner ‘04
Laguna Seca10"
Seattle Rev10"
Professional Hall
SeriesCourseA-SpecCar
Clubman CupApricot Hill88?
Twin Ring Motegi East72?
Seoul Rev8?
SSR5 Clubman140?
Deep Forest159?
Tuning CarApricot Hill Rev123Subaru Impreza RC Prototype ‘01
Fuji Speedway 90’s123"
Tokyo R246123"
El Capitan Rev123"
Tsukuba123"
Race of NA SportsInfineon Sports100?
Apricot Hill Rev100?
Twin Ring Motegi Road100?
SSR5 Rev142?
Trial Mountain100?
Race of Turbo SportsFuji Speedway 80’s124?
Tokyo R246 Rev124?
High Speed Ring42?
New York Rev14?
Midfield124?
Boxer SpiritHong Kong89?
Infineon Sports89?
Deep Forest Rev110?
World Classic Car Fuji Speedway 80’s7?
El Capitan Rev7?
Nürburgring7?
Cote d’Azur7?
Laguna Seca7?
World Compact Car Seattle21?
Tsukuba21?
Grand Valley East Rev21?
Hong Kong Rev21?
Twin Ring Motegi East21?
Supercar FestivalSeoul79RUF CTR Yellow Bird ‘87
Fuji Speedway 90’s79"
New York79"
Midfield Rev26"
Infineon Sports79"
Gran Turismo World Tokyo R24626Toyota Minolta 88C-V ‘89
Twin Ring Motegi Speedway26"
Hong Kong8"
Seoul Rev26"
El Capitan33"
New York48"
Opera Paris Rev55"
Suzuka55"
Grand Valley Rev55"
Circuit de la Sarthe I55"
Extreme Hall
SeriesCourseA-SpecCar
Gran Turismo All StarsHigh Speed Ring Rev200Pagani Zonda LM Race Car ‘01
Fuji Speedway 80’s187"
Laguna Seca200"
Autumn Ring Rev200"
Test Course194"
Grand Valley Rev200"
Suzuka187Nissan GT-R Concept LM Race Car
Infineon Stock Car150"
Circuit de la Sarthe I69Mercedes CLK-GTR Race Car ‘00
Nürburgring50Pescarolo Courage C60 ‘03
Dream Car Opera Paris151Mercedes CLK Touring Car ‘00
Tokyo R246 Rev151"
Deep Forest151"
Seoul Rev151"
Hong Kong151"
Test Course200VW W12 Nardo Concept ‘01
Beginner Course151 Mercedes CLK Touring Car ‘00
Circuit de la Sarthe II57"
El Capitan Rev151"
Cote d’Azur156"
Polyphony Digital CupTwin Ring Motegi Road73Lotus Elise Type 72 ‘01
Seattle Rev73"
Infineon Stock Car73"
Tokyo R246 Rev73"
Fuji Speedway 200573"
Motorland Rev73"
Circuit de la Sarthe I73"
El Capitan Rev76"
Suzuka80"
Nürburgring84"
Like the WindTest Course200Mercedes CLK-GTR Race Car ‘98
Formula GT World Tokyo R246115Polyphony Formula Gran Turismo ‘04
Twin Ring Motegi Speedway73"
New York101"
High Speed Ring114"
Grand Valley114"
Circuit de la Sarthe I137"
Cote d’Azur146"
Seoul146"
Infineon Sports137"
Laguna Seca101"
Twin Ring Motegi Road114"
Nürburgring77"
El Capitan127"
Fuji Speedway 2005123"
Suzuka114"
World Circuit ToursSuzuka200Nissan GT-R Concept LM Race Car ‘02
Twin Ring Motegi Road123Pescarolo Courage C60 ‘03
Tsukuba89Nissan R89C ‘89
Laguna Seca200Pagani Zonda LM Race Car ‘01
Infineon Sports72Sauber Mercedes C9 ‘89
Fuji Speedway 2005 GT135Mazda 787B ‘91
Circuit de la Sarthe I110Mercedes CLK-GTR Race Car ‘98
Nürburgring200BMW McLaren F1 GTR Race Car ‘97
Premium Sports LoungeCote d’Azur200BMW M3 CSL ‘03
Opera Paris109"
Hong Kong Rev137"
High Speed Ring Rev103"
New York Rev92"
American Hall
SeriesCourseA-SpecCar
All American Seattle27Chevy Camaro LM Race Car ‘01
Infineon Sports27"
New York27"
El Capitan Rev27"
Laguna Seca27"
Stars and StripesLaguna Seca157Chrysler Crossfire ‘04
Seattle157"
Infineon Stock Car153"
Hot Rod CompetitionNew York Rev18?
Laguna Seca74?
El Capitan31?
Muscle Car CompetitionNew York32Chevy Chevelle SS454 ‘70
Infineon Sport27"
Seattle37"
European Hall
SeriesCourseA-SpecCar
Pan European Opera Paris197BMW M3 CSL ‘03
Grand Valley200"
Circuit de la Sarthe I198"
Cote d’Azur198"
Nürburgring200"
British GT Grand Valley161Aston Martin Vanquish ‘04
Fuji Speedway 90’s161"
El Capitan161"
Infineon Sports161"
Midfield Rev161"
British Lightweight SeriesAutumn Ring83Ginetta G4 ‘64
Apricot Hill Rev75"
SSR575"
Deutsche Touring CarOpera Paris73Opel Calibra Touring Car ‘94
Midfield73"
High Speed Ring Rev73"
Nürburgring73"
Fuji Speedway 2005 GT73"
La Festa ItalianoAutumn Ring Rev94Alfa Romeo 147 GTA ‘02
Cote d’Azur100"
Infineon Sports105"
Tous France ChampionatOpera Paris87Renault 5 Turbo ‘80
Circuit de la Sarthe I87"
SSR587"
Grand Valley Rev87"
Cote d’Azur87"
Europe Classic Car Nürburgring4Lotus Elan S1 ‘62
Fuji Speedway 80’s4"
Opera Paris Rev4"
Suzuka4"
Deep forest Rev4"
Europe Hot Hatch Twin Ring Motegi East128?
Opera Paris128?
Trial Mountain Rev128?
Suzuka East128?
SSR5 Rev128?
1000 Miles! Nürburgring40Chevy Corvette Convertible (C1) ‘54
Opera Paris40"
Cote d’Azur40"
Circuit de la Sarthe II8"
Schwarzwald Liga ATrial Mountain95?
Opera Paris Rev10?
Autumn Ring70?
Schwarzwald Liga BNürburgring75?
Tokyo R24675?
Fuji Speedway 90’s105?
High Speed Ring Rev52?
Suzuka108?
Japanese Hall
SeriesCourseA-SpecCar
Japan ChampionshipFuji Speedway 90’s182ASL Garaiya ‘02
Tsukuba199"
Tokyo R246 Rev182"
Twin Ring Motegi Road182"
Suzuka182"
All Japan GT Tokyo R24694ASL ARTA Garaiya JGTC ‘03
Suzuka East94"
Seoul94"
Fuji Speedway 90’s94"
Twin Ring Motegi Speedway94"
Laguna Seca94"
Hong Kong94"
Twin Ring Motegi Road100"
Fuji Speedway 2005 GT108"
Suzuka116"
Japanese 70’s ClassicsFuji Speedway 80’s10Nissan 240ZG (HS30) ‘71
Autumn Ring Mini Rev9"
Tsukuba10"
Motorland Rev10"
Trial Mountain10"
Japanese 80’s FestivalEl Capitan54Nissan Fairlady Z 300ZX ‘83
SSR5 Clubman Rev63"
Tsukuba70"
Apricot Hill Rev59"
Suzuka50"
Japanese 90’s ChallengeApricot Hill84?
Grand Valley East Rev106?
Twin Ring Motegi East100?
SSR5 Rev106?
Fuji Speedway 90’s98?
Japanese Compact CupTwin Ring Motegi East128Daihatsu Copen Active Top ‘02
Autumn Ring Mini Rev128"
Tsukuba83"
Deep Forest Rev128"
Suzuka East135"
Endurance Hall
SeriesCourseA-SpecCar
Grand Valley 300 kmGrand Valley100BMW M3 GTR Race Car ‘01
Laguna Seca 200 milesLaguna Seca138TVR Cerbera Speed 6 ‘97
Roadster 4hr EnduranceTsukuba65MX-5 S-Special Type I ‘95
Tokyo 300 kmTokyo R24626Mercedes CLK Touring Car
Super Speedway 150 milesTwin Ring Motegi Speedway7Minolta 88C-V ‘89
Nürburgring 24hr EnduranceNürburgring12Subaru Impreza Touring Car ‘01
Nürburgring 4hr EnduranceNürburgring98ASL Garaiya ‘02
Suzuka 1000 kmSuzuka128ASL ARTA Garaiya JGTC ‘03
Motegi 8hr EnduranceTwin Ring Motegi Road105Lotus Elise Sport 190 ‘98
Tsukuba 9hr EnduranceTsukuba189Lotus Elise 111S ‘03
Circuit de la Sarthe 24hr ICircuit de la Sarthe I73Pescarolo Courage C60 ‘03
Circuit de la Sarthe 24hr IICircuit de la Sarthe II123Gillet Vertigo Race Car ‘04
Fuji 1000 kmFuji Speedway 90’s125Mercedes CLK-GTR Race Car ‘98
Infineon World SportsInfineon Sports200Nissan GT-R Concept LM Race Car ‘02
El Capitan 200 milesEl Capitan200Acura HSC ‘04
New York 200 milesNew York144Shelby Series 1 Super Charged ‘03
Special Conditions Hall
SeriesCourseA-SpecCar
"Easy"Citta di Aria56Lotus Elise Type 72 ‘01
Citta di Aria Rev56"
Costa di Amalfi30?
Costa di Amalfi Rev30?
Grand Canyon9?
Grand Canyon Rev9?
Ice Arena9?
Ice Arena Rev9?
Chamonix72Renault 5 Turbo ‘80
Chamonix Rev9?
George V Paris30?
George V Paris Rev14?
Swiss Alps137Renault 5 Turbo ‘80
Swiss Alps Rev200Renault 5 Turbo ‘80
Tahiti Maze145Renault 5 Turbo ‘80
Tahiti Maze Rev146Renault 5 Turbo ‘80
Tsukuba Wet200Renault 5 Turbo ‘80
Cathedral Rocks Trial I147Renault 5 Turbo ‘80
Cathedral Rocks Trial I Rev148Renault 5 Turbo ‘80
Cathedral Rocks Trial II164Renault 5 Turbo ‘80
Cathedral Rocks Trial II Rev136Renault 5 Turbo ‘80
"Normal"Citta di Aria63Subaru Impreza RC Prototype ‘01
Citta di Aria Rev8Subaru Impreza RC Prototype ‘01
Costa di Amalfi76?
Costa di Amalfi Rev7?
Grand Canyon47Mitsu CZ-3 Tarmac ‘01
Grand Canyon Rev53Mitsu CZ-3 Tarmac ‘01
Ice Arena44?
Ice Arena Rev44?
Chamonix10?
Chamonix Rev10?
George V Paris10?
George V Paris Rev10?
Swiss Alps73Mitsu CZ-3 Tarmac ‘01
Swiss Alps Rev139Mitsu CZ-3 Tarmac ‘01
Tahiti Maze107Mitsu CZ-3 Tarmac ‘01
Tahiti Maze Rev34Mitsu CZ-3 Tarmac ‘01
Tsukuba Wet200Subaru Impreza RC Prototype ‘01
Cathedral Rocks Trial I59Mitsu CZ-3 Tarmac ‘01
Cathedral Rocks Trial I Rev59Mitsu CZ-3 Tarmac ‘01
Cathedral Rocks Trial II59Mitsu CZ-3 Tarmac ‘01
Cathedral Rocks Trial II Rev59Mitsu CZ-3 Tarmac ‘01
"Hard"Citta di Aria42Subaru Impreza RC Prototype ‘01
Citta di Aria Rev42Subaru Impreza RC Prototype ‘01
Costa di Amalfi68?
Costa di Amalfi Rev7?
Grand Canyon9Mitsu CZ-3 Tarmac RC ‘02
Grand Canyon Rev10Mitsu CZ-3 Tarmac RC ‘02
Ice Arena17Mitsu CZ-3 Tarmac RC ‘02
Ice Arena Rev8Mitsu CZ-3 Tarmac RC ‘02
Chamonix150Mitsu CZ-3 Tarmac ‘01
Chamonix Rev69Mitsu CZ-3 Tarmac RC ‘02
George V Paris60?
George V Paris Rev60?
Swiss Alps40?
Swiss Alps Rev80?
Tahiti Maze132Subaru Impreza RC Prototype ‘01
Tahiti Maze Rev132Subaru Impreza RC Prototype ‘01
Tsukuba Wet200Subaru Impreza Touring Car ‘01
Cathedral Rocks Trial I80Subaru Impreza RC Prototype ‘01
Cathedral Rocks Trial I Rev80Subaru Impreza RC Prototype ‘01
Cathedral Rocks Trial II36Subaru Impreza RC Prototype ‘01
Cathedral Rocks Trial II Rev80Subaru Impreza RC Prototype ‘01
One Make Races
SeriesCourseA-SpecCar
Alfa Romeo GTA CupGrand Valley East Rev10147 GTA ‘02
Tsukuba10"
Apricot Hill10"
Aston Martin CarnivalFuji Speedway 90’s94Vanquish ‘04
Hong Kong96"
Autumn Ring94"
Audi TT El Capitan90TT Coupe 1.8T Quattro ‘03
Tokyo R246 Rev90"
Deep Forest Rev90"
Audi A3 CupSuzuka East60A3 3.2 Quattro ‘03
Midfield60"
Laguna Seca60"
BMW 1 Series TrophyGrand Valley76BMW 120i ‘04
Infineon Sports76"
Twin Ring Motegi East76"
BMW Club M El Capitan Rev72BMW M3 CSL ‘03
Apricot Hill72"
Opera Paris Rev72"
Suzuka72"
Nürburgring72"
Chevy Vette! Vette! Vette!Seattle200Corvette Convertible (C1) ‘54
Laguna Seca200"
New York Rev137"
Infineon Sports200"
El Capitan200"
Chevy Camaro MeetingSeoul108Camaro IROC-Z Concept ‘88
El Capitan Rev108"
Midfield108"
Chrysler Crossfire TrophySeattle45Crossfire ‘04
Twin Ring Motegi Speedway45"
Trial Mountain Rev45"
Citroen 2CV Opera Paris Rev522CV ‘54
Cote d’Azur52"
Autumn Ring Mini52"
Deep Forest Rev52"
Tsukuba52"
Daihatsu Copen RaceTsukuba50Copen Active Top ‘02
Motorland51"
Autumn Ring Mini79"
Diahatsu Midget II RaceMotorland Rev50Midget II D-Type ‘98
Honda Type R MeetingTwin Ring Motegi Road48NSX-R Concept ‘01
Autumn Ring Rev49"
Suzuka50"
Motorland Rev53"
Tsukuba48"
Honda Civic RaceTwin Ring Motegi East34Civic Type R ‘98
Suzuka East61"
Deep Forest62"
Autumn Ring Mini62"
Midfield Rev57"
Hyundai Sport FestivalAutumn Ring8HCD6 ‘01
Hong Kong8"
Grand Valley East8"
Tsukuba8"
Seoul8"
Isuzu Sports ClassicsTsukuba46Piazza XE ‘81
Fuji Speedway 80’s43"
Trial Mountain43"
Lotus Elise TrophyTokyo R24652Elise 111S ‘03
Autumn Ring Rev52"
SSR5 Rev52"
Hong Kong52"
Apricot Hill52"
Lotus Classic Car CupHong Kong Rev41 Elan S1 ‘62
Laguna Seca41"
El Capitan41"
Tsukuba41"
Apricot Hill Rev41"
Mazda Club ‘RE’Laguna Seca74RX-8 Concept (Type I) ‘01
Autumn Ring Rev41"
SSR5 Rev43"
Opera Paris7BP Falken RX-7 (D1GP) ‘01
Suzuka41RX-8 Concept (Type I) ‘01
Mazda Roadster CupTwin Ring Motegi East156MX-5 S-Special Type I ‘95
Tokyo R24658"
SSR5 Clubman Rev58"
Tsukuba58"
Trial Mountain156"
Mazda RX-8 CupLaguna Seca8RX-8 Concept (Type I) ‘01
SSR58"
Fuji Speedway 90’s8"
El Capitan8"
Tsukuba8"
Mercedes Benz Silver ArrowFuji Speedway 90’s15SL55 AMG (R230) ‘02
Nürburgring15"
Opera Paris10"
Mercedes Benz SL ChallengeApricot Hill9 SL55 AMG (R230) ‘02
Fuji Speedway 80’s8"
El Capitan9"
MG FestivalHong Kong Rev59MG TF160 ‘03
Suzuka59"
Opera Paris59"
Motorland59"
Grand Valley East Rev59"
Mini Mini Sports MeetingOpera Paris11Cooper S ‘02
Tokyo R2468"
SSR5 Clubman Rev9"
Seattle9"
New York Rev8"
Mitsubishi Evolution MeetingSSR5 Clubman169Evo III GSR ‘95
Fuji Speedway 90’s168"
Tokyo R246110"
Mitsubishi Mirage CupTsukuba132Mirage Cyborg ZR ‘97
Autumn Ring132"
SSR5132"
Laguna Seca132"
Suzuka132"
Nissan Race of the Red EmblemTwin Ring Motegi Road110Skyline GT-R V-Spec (R33) ‘97
Trial Mountain Rev106"
Fuji Speedway 80’s126"
New York Rev114"
Suzuka128"
Nissan March BrothersAutumn Ring Mini165Micra ‘03
Suzuka East165"
Grand Valley East Rev70"
Nissan Silvia SistersTsukuba23Silvia Q’s (S13) ‘88
SSR519"
Fuji Speedway 90’s10"
Nissan Club ‘Z’New York26Fairlady Z 300ZX (Z31) ‘83
Tokyo R246 Rev26"
El Capitan18"
Laguna Seca26"
Grand Valley Rev18"
Opel Speedster trophyGrand Valley163Speedster Turbo ‘00
Autumn Ring Rev163"
Suzuka East163"
Infineon Sports163"
Seattle185"
Peugeot 206 CupOpera Paris200206 Rally Car ‘99
Tsukuba153"
Motorland Rev157"
Suzuka East153"
Cote d’Azur153"
Renault Alpine CupTokyo R24638Alpine A310 1600VE ‘73
Trial Mountain38"
Opera Paris Rev38"
SSR538"
Grand Valley38"
Renault Clio TrophySuzuka140Clio Sport V6 Phase 2 ‘03
Twin Ring Motegi Road140"
Tsukuba140"
Deep Forest140"
El Capitan Rev140"
Renault Megane CupSuzuka East20Megane 2.0 IDE Coupe ‘00
Opera Paris20"
Laguna Seca20"
Seoul20"
Cote d’Azur20"
Saleen S7 ClubCircuit de la Sarthe I60Saleen S7 ‘02
El Capitan60"
SSR5 Rev60"
Suzuka60"
Infineon Sports60"
Shelby CupSeattle Rev175Series 1 Super Charged ‘03
High Speed Ring Rev175"
New York175"
Laguna Seca175"
Trial Mountain Rev200"
Subaru 360 RaceTsukuba41Subaru 360 ‘58
Subaru Stars of the PleiadesTsukuba116Impreza Sedan WRX STi V1 ‘99
Trial Mountain116"
Suzuka116"
Deep Forest Rev116"
Laguna Seca116"
Suzuki K-Car CupAutumn Ring Mini Rev52MR Wagon Sport ‘04
Tsukuba52"
Motorland53"
Suzuki ConceptsTwin Ring Motegi West42Concept S2 ‘03
Seattle33"
Tsukuba9"
Toyota Altezza RaceTsukuba27Lexus IS200 (J) ‘98
Suzuka30"
Apricot Hill14"
Twin Ring Motegi Road17"
Fuji Speedway 200530"
Toyota Vitz RaceFuji Speedway 90’s79Vitz RS1.5 ‘00
Suzuka East79"
Twin Ring Motegi East74"
Tsukuba74"
Autumn Ring79"
Triumph Spitfire CupEl Capitan53Spitfire ‘74
Twin Ring Motegi West53"
Autumn Ring Mini Rev53"
SSR5 Clubman53"
Seoul Rev45"
TVR Blackpool RacersSuzuka East74TVR Cerbera Speed 6 ‘97
SSR575"
Laguna Seca150"
Opera Paris75"
Fuji Speedway 200574"
Volkswagen Beetle CupFuji Speedway 90’s73New Beetle Cup Car ‘00
Twin Ring Motegi Road73"
Tsukuba73"
Suzuka73"
Fuji Speedway 200573"
Volkswagen Lupo CupFuji Speedway 90’s55Lupo GTi Cup Car ‘03
Nürburgring55"
Tsukuba55"
Suzuka55"
Infineon Sports55"
Volkswagen GTi CupHong Kong Rev23Lupo GTi Cup Car ‘03
Tsukuba23"
Opera Paris23"
Midfield Rev23"
Deep Forest Rev23"
Miscellaneous
SeriesCourseA-SpecCar
Family CupAny (El Capitan)200Mitsubishi CZ-3 Rally Car
Driving MissionsVarious8,500Various
Total A-Spec Points51,733
Total 200 A-Spec Points Races29

[This message has been edited by miko (edited 07-11-2005).]

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Lugnut
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posted 07-06-2005 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lugnut     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote

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miko
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posted 07-07-2005 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for miko     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
In my altruistic way and as the above table nears completion, would anybody find this useful within the Resource Section under a title such as "Getting 50,000 A-Spec Points"? As alternative vehicles are identified this of course will be updated. Let me know if anybody's interested.

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Littleg
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posted 07-07-2005 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Littleg     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by miko:
In my altruistic way and as the above table nears completion, would anybody find this useful within the Resource Section under a title such as "Getting 50,000 A-Spec Points"? As alternative vehicles are identified this of course will be updated. Let me know if anybody's interested.

Do it. The resource section lives and dies by the quality of information that people put in there and, I think we can all agree, that this is (as they say) the good sh*t. It may prompt other people to say what they used for particular races - a list like that would have speeded up my attempts to beat the El Cap Enduro no end, I can tell you.

Slow of me I know, but good to have you back by the way .

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player2
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posted 07-08-2005 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for player2     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote

Maybe you just extended my GT4 career by 2-3 years ...

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Sukerkin
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posted 07-08-2005 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sukerkin     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Monumental tabling Miko !

Excellent idea too - I've been keeping notes myself but have been very tardy about stringing them together into on-line posts.

My excuse is that I get little enough time to race as it is these days without eating up the track-hours with typing up results .

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Did somebody mention TVR's?

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miko
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posted 07-08-2005 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for miko     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Excellent! The table will be moved into the Resource Section then (it will also make it easier for me to access as this diary extends)

Well, I finally finished extracting and tabulating data from all of the races and, although this was a lengthy exercise, this now makes it much easier for me to plan a point’s assault.

Looking at the Beginners Hall the obvious starting point is the Lightweight Cup where I had previously achieved only 37 points in total. Using the same car as before, the Daihatsu Copen Active Top ’02, I increased points to 67, 72 and 60 respectively at the three races by adding 200kg of ballast to the 67hp stock, S2 tires vehicle. This is a long way away from the things that Lugnut is playing with at the moment (cars Lugs, cars ) Interestingly the modified weight of the Copen is 1030kg, exactly the same as the Subaru Impreza Super Touring Car, although the PWR is a little (understatement) different.

While in the Copen I also revisited the Copen Series and increased points to 50, 51 and 79 respectively. The first two races at Tsukuba and Motorland had to be run ballast free but the final race at Autumn Ring Mini had a full load.

Lastly in the Copen, I attacked the Japanese Compact Cup in the Japan Hall where I had previously attained 36 points per race. I entered as a Championship to give me the opportunity of qualifying, and had S3 tires and a few power modifiers up my sleeve should they be needed. The field I drew comprised a Mazda Demio Sport ’03, both versions of the Scion, a surprisingly fast Mitsubishi Colt 1.5 Sport X Version ’02 and the class of the field, a Toyota Vitz RS Turbo ’02. I qualified on pole in each race which progressed as follows:

Twin Ring Motegi East – 128pts – 75hp – S3 tires – S1 turbo – 200 ballast
Autumn Ring Mini Reverse – 128pts – 75hp – S3 tires – S1 turbo – 200 ballast
Tsukuba – 83pts – 79hp – S3 tires – S1 turbo – racing intercooler – 0 ballast
Deep Forest Reverse – 75hp – S3 tires – S1 turbo – 200 ballast
Suzuka East – 135pts – 75hp – S2 tires – S1 turbo – 200 ballast

The other series I checked out was again in the Beginners Hall, the 4WD series. I felt that with the right car and the right competition that 200 point races were possible. Checking out the PWRs of my 4WD selection, sitting near the bottom of the list was the Lancia Delta HF Integrale ’91, and this became my car of choice. The only AI field I found that gave high points was grid #2 and comprised an Audi Quattro ’82, Ford RS200 ’84, Hyundai Clix ’01, Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi ’02 and an Audi RS6 ’02. The car to beat was the Ford. And so…

Grand Valley East – 200pts – 212hp – S2 tires – 120 ballast
Autumn Ring Mini Reverse – 200pts – 212hp – S2 tires – 120 ballast
Suzuka East – 200pts – 212hp – S2 tires – 120 ballast
El Capitan Reverse – 185pts – 212hp – S2 tires – 0 ballast
Fuji Speedway 90’s – 200pts – 212hp – S2 tires – 120 ballast

Being a single race series the starting position was always #6 on the grid which was a particular disadvantage, especially at El Capitan where I could not beat the Ford RS200 while carrying ballast. At GV East and Fuji I also had to employ some minor blocking tactics to fend off the Ford or Audi on the straights. At GV East the Audi came second and pushed me over the line to win by only a few hundredths. In all other races the Ford came a close second.

Anyway, with the above racing my points total now sits at 51,733. My objectives now are to reach 75,000 points (yeah! right) and achieve one hundred 200 point races (yeah! right again). We’ll see…

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Looking at the Beginners Hall the obvious starting point is the Lightweight Cup where I had previously achieved only 37 points in total. Using the same car as before, the Daihatsu Copen Active Top ’02, I increased points to 67, 72 and 60 respectively at the three races by adding 200kg of ballast to the 67hp stock, S2 tires vehicle. This is a long way away from the things that Lugnut is playing with at the moment (cars Lugs, cars )

While you are several thousand points ahead of me in the marathon, you are still about 150 points behind in this heat. My A-Spec points in the K-Car races are in the mid-120s for the two races at Motorland and a shade over 100 for the race at Tsukuba. You're on the right track, but you need to look for qualifying cars that are naturally heavy to start with, so that the addition of ballast really drives up the points.

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I managed to run 16 race series (and a lot of trials!!!) over the weekend which took my points total to over 58,000 and added 26 ‘200 point’ races to my tally. The Beginner Hall has gone as far as I’m going to take it at the moment (with the exception of the Sports Truck Series which remains a conundrum if I’m not going to use the Dodge Ram) as is the American Hall. Additionally I re-ran the Clubman Cup, NA Sports and Turbo Sports in the Professional Hall, and BMW Club M & Mazda Club RE in the one-make races. What follows is detail of these races that may be brief or extensive depending on the interest and comment that resulted.

So, where do I start? Ah yes! The K-Cup (spurred on by Lugnut’s previous post )

Lightweight K-Cup

Taking Lug’s advice I went shopping at the used car lots and bought a Daihatsu Move CX ’95. Putting out 50hp on black oil, on S3 tires and carrying 100kg of ballast it was good for 149 and 154 point wins at Motorland and the Beginner’s Course. With another 100kg of ballast I was able to secure a 172 point win at BC, but Tsukuba proved a little more difficult. Here I kept the 100kg of ballast but had to increase power to 55hp to get a 114 point win. How does this now stack up Lugs?

FF Cup

I used the 218hp (but heavy) Renault Avantime ’02 with S3 tires and 200kg ballast to secure 140, 140, 135 and 144 point victories at Midfield Rev, HK Rev, GV East and TR Motegi East respectively. I really wanted a 200 pointer and Suzuka East was the obvious choice as the AI drives so badly here. Eventually, after a lot of tests, I ran a 105hp VW Lupo 1.4 ’02 on S3 tires with 10kg (yes, only 10 to take the value from 199 to 200) of junk in the trunk, to achieve this.

MR Challenge

This is a tricky series depending firstly on whether the NSX shows up, and then on which versions (R or S). I ended up using the Lotus Elise Type 72 ’01 at an oil change 128hp, as this could handle the NSX’s that I actually wanted in the race to elevate the points value.

Beginner Course: S3 tires; 50 ballast; 178 points with 2 NSX’s
Autumn Ring Rev: S3 tires; 50 ballast; 157 points with 0 NSX’s
NY Rev: S3 tires; 50 ballast; 142 points with 1 NSX (Go figure!)
Fuji 90’s: S2 tires; 100 ballast; 160 points with 1 NSX
El Capitan: S2 tires; 100 ballast; 166 points with 1 NSX

I re-ran Autumn Ring a number of times for the 200 pointer and ended up getting this on S2 tires with 125kg of ballast, against both NSX variants.

Spider & Roadster

Using MG TF160 ’03 at 169hp…

TR Motegi East: S3 tires; 0 ballast; 129 points
Trial Mountain Rev: S2 tires; 200 ballast; 200 points
Infineon: S3 tires; 0 ballast; 169 points (a much stronger field than Motegi)

FR Challenge

First I tried the Camaro IROZ at 233hp on S2 tires and this was good for a 137 point win at Seattle – but I wanted more. I ended up racing a Mazda MX-5 S-Special Type I ’95 fitted with S3 tires, a chip and a racing exhaust. This gave an output of 152hp and resulted in relatively comfortable 200 point wins in all 5 races in the series. Easy points here Lugs.

Sunday Cup

Another difficult series to get high points in. I used the Daihatsu Copen Active Top ’02 (now it no longer figures in the K-Cup standings) at 67hp, and scored points wins of between 109 and 173 by varying tires and ballast according to the course. The low 109 point victory was at SSR5 Clubman and was due to the fact that I additionally had to use an S1 turbo, boosting power to 75hp, to deal with the long straight.

With the exception of the Truck Races this concludes my activities in the Beginners Hall – at least for the time being. I’ll just comment here on the two Manufacturers series I ran before I detail the American and Professional Halls series and findings in my next post – some of which proved very interesting.

BMW Club M

I found a used M Coupe in the car lots and ran it at 290hp on black oil for some very, very close racing. All of the M’s show up (M3, M5, M Coupe, M3 CSL and M3 GTR) in each race so point’s prediction becomes very easy.

El Capitan: S2 tires; 35 ballast; 200 points (winning by 0.131s over the M5)
Apricot Hill: S3 tires; chip; racing exhaust; NA1; 335hp; 138 points (+0.121s over M5)
Opera Paris: S2 tires; 35 ballast; 200 points (easy win of +4.374s over CSL)
Suzuka: S3 tires; chip; racing exhaust; 311hp; 163 points (+2.468 over CSL)
Nurby: S3 tires; chip; racing exhaust; NA1; oil; 371hp; 103 points (+0.732 over M5)

The straights at Apricot Hill, Suzuka and especially Nurby proved too much for the 290hp M Coupe and I had to use power modifiers to compensate.

Mazda Club RE

I had previously managed only 206 points from the entire five races and found I had all sorts of power additions on the RX-8 prototype I had previously used. Removing all of these and adding 200kg ballast, these races are now worth 821 points total. I looked back in the game diary and found that this series was completed very early on in my ‘career’, June of Year 1 to be precise. I remember struggling at that time with Opera Paris and actually resorted to using the BP Falken RX-7 to complete the series. Well, I’m now in June of Year 4 – I guess that my driving has improved a little over the 3 game years of racing since first completing these races. LOL!

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Moving on to the American Hall…

All American Championship

After assessing suitable entrants I chose the Chaparral 2D ’67. At 447hp, on R3 tires and with 200kg ballast (100kg at New York) it was good for 150 point victories at Seattle, Infineon, El Capitan and Laguna Seca (122 points at New York) against a Panoz Esperante, Viper Oreca, Ford GT LM ’04, Ford GT40 and Corvette C2. I did find a 200 point race against a field that included the 2D’s big brother, the 2J. Suffice to say I lost around 3s per lap and quickly gave up – that sucker is seriously fast.

One interesting thing about the 2D for anyone thinking of using it… It has only 3 gears and must be kept in the power band. On standing starts, and El Capitan was the only one I had to contend with in this series, the 2D takes about a week to get moving and you’ll lose about 5s off the line. It’s also seriously slow out of any turns at less than 50 mph. If you look at the torque curve the reason for this is obvious. Hard as I looked, I just couldn’t find the clutch on the DS2

Muscle Car Competition

200 point victories in all races (took a little judicious field selection) in the Corvette Convertible (C1) ’54 with S3 tires and NA1 tuning, putting out 187hp. Fun racing, especially when the Buick Special showed up. I’ll give some additional info here as when I first ran this series it pre-dates this diary.

Seattle – Corvette C1 ’54 with NA1 tuning and S3 tires at 187hp. Race rated 181 points:

Car / MOV / FL

1. Corvette C1 ’54 / winner / 1’52.262
2. Dodge Charger Super Bee 426 Hemi ’71 / +1.682 / 1’56.053
3. Chevy Chevelle SS454 ’70 / +3.704 / 1’54.482
4. Chevy Corvette Stingray L46 350 ’69 / +8.937 / 1’57.477
5. Chevy Camaro Z28 302 ’69 / +11.275 / 1’58.245
6. Chevy Camaro SS ’69 / +13.218 / 1’59.639

Infineon – C1 as above. Race rated 200 points

1. Corvette C1 ’54 / winner / 1’52.444
2. Dodge Charger 440 R/T ’70 / +1.617 / 1’55.563
3. Plymouth Super Bird ’70 / +6.281 / 1’56.452
4. Mercury Cougar XR-7 ’67 / +8.357 / 1’57.937
5. Shelby Mustang G.T. 350R ’65 / +9.049 / 1’56.740
6. Chevy Corvette Stingray L46 350 ’69 / +10.763 / 1’59.091

New York – C1 as above plus Chip and racing exhaust. Now 203hp. Race rated 200 points

1. Corvette C1 ’54 / winner / 1’53.998
2. Buick Special ’62 / +0.112 / 1’54.497
3. Dodge Charger Super Bee 426 Hemi ’71 / +2.580 / 1’58.620
4. Dodge Charger 440 R/T ’70 / +4.743 / 1’59.911
5. Pontiac Tempest Le Mans GTO ‘64 / – / –
6. Chevy Corvette Coupe (C2) ‘63 / – / – /

I reran Seattle a few times to get a 200 point race and eventually drew the same as New York except with the Corvette replaced by a Camaro. On this occasion I beat the Buick by over 4s. I really enjoyed racing against the Buick Special. It was a case of pass him on the turns, get blown on the straight, pass him on the turns, and so on…

Lugs – you must invest in the transmission upgrades for this little beauty as it’ll pay you back, and some, in points return.

Hot Rod Competition

The killer little car for these races is the Pontiac Solstice Coupe Concept’02. On S3 tires, with a trunk full of ballast and a power of 243hp, this gave easy victories against such cars as the Viper, Shelby, Callaway etc. Initial points were 184 at New York, 167 at Laguna Seca and 193 at El Capitan. Many race resets finally gave me a 200 point field at NY which was still an easy victory. The other races could be converted but I’ll leave it for now and come back at my leisure.

Stars and Stripes

I’ve finally found another car that I rate along side the BMW M3 CSL. “What?” you ask. Well, it may surprise you – it certainly surprised me, and at 315hp, on S2 tires and with 200kg of ballast, it gave easy 200 point victories against ‘pumped-up’ American Supercars at Laguna Seca, Seattle and Infineon. It was the slowest and poorest accelerating car in the field but it brakes on a dime and corners as though on rails. The car, and I can’t praise it enough, is the Ford Mustang GT ’05. Try it and see. I read that Ford claim to have increased the car’s rigidity by 30% over previous Mustangs. It feels like it in the game, I wonder if the same is true in real life. Anyway, we’ll come back to this car a little later.

That’s it with the American Hall. No need to revisit other than for fun (and squeezing those last few available points if needed )

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posted 07-11-2005 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lugnut     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Wow, just when I thought I was getting close, I'm 10K behind in this contest again.

A few reactions.

K-Car Cup: You found the car, but you were more inventive than I was. When I couldn't win with it straight off the used car lot, I changed the oil. I didn't try to use the S3 tires, which I gather were so effective that it didn't just allow you to win on black oil, but also allowed you to add ballast as well! You've leapfrogged me by about 50-60 points in this event.

FF Cup: I've got 200 point victories across the board here, as I mentioned in my own diary. Since you've indicated you have exhausted your search, I'll give up the car I used. It was a PT Cruiser. It needs significant mods to pick up the seconds it needs to compete, including semi-racing suspension to lower height and increase spring rate and upgrades to the flywheel and clutch to add pickup. But once you do those things, the car will win against most fields, and some of those fields will be rated a natural 200, or close enough to get there on very little ballast. Since you can still pick up almost 250 points here, I expect you'll want to come back for them.

MR Challenge: Maybe I'll finally get NY and Fuji into respectable triple digits now. Thanks.

FR Challenge: I've only scratched the surface in this series, but the ballasted Z4 has already got these scores deep into the triple digits--150+ points every race. Based on that, I was confident of finding a car that would go to 200. It doesn't surprise me that the Mazda MX-5 does it. That car has been treated well by the folks at PD all along. I'm going to try to find a non-Japanese car that will also get the 200s.

Sunday Cup: All of my races are between 150-180 points here, IIRC. I don't recall, however, which car(s). I can review my diary when I'm home.

I haven't been back to those two particular mfr races for some time. My recollection is that for the Mazda RE, I used one of the used RX-7s that got me A-Specs of between 100-120 for these five races.

As for the BMW M races, we've talked about those before. I first did them in the M5 for few points. After you praised the M3 CSL, I did them in that car for whatever points that earned (90-something IIRC). I'm curious, did you do a rigidity refresh on the used M Coupe?

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Comments on the second post:

The Chapparal 2D was something I tried in the dream car championship, and I noted the problem with the power band, too. The car up and died in places like Hong Kong and Paris. It has it's uses, but the power disappearing in first gear is a major problem.

Muscle car competition: Ever since I beat the 3-Lap Battle Mission with the American muscle cars at Seattle, I knew that I could come back to this arena and do much better than I'd done before. I notice, however, that your fields were all missing the Shelby Cobra. I assume that's not an accident.

Interesting finds in the Solstice and Mustang. There are possible applications of those finds in the Pro Hall. Also, it's possible that one of those cars could break down the 200 point barrier in the Laguna Seca enduro without having to go overseas for one of the known giant killers.

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I'm curious, did you do a rigidity refresh on the used M Coupe?

No. At 50,000 credits I didn't want to waste the money and to be honest, I'm not sure what difference it would have made. The weakness of the M-Coupe is in top speed, not handling.

It may seem strange, being as I'm 4 game years in, but I still only have about 2m credits and seem to be spending money faster than I'm generating it. This is mainly on second-hand car purchases, recent acquisitions including a V8 Vantage at 224k, a Honda S800 and an S600 at 50k. When re-running non-championship series I do not clear the win data and therefore do not win any cars to pimp. I have about 250 days left before the black LM cars become available again and need to get to 8m credits by then. I might need to re-think my pimping philosophy.

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It may seem strange, being as I'm 4 game years in, but I still only have about 2m credits and seem to be spending money faster than I'm generating it. This is mainly on second-hand car purchases, recent acquisitions including a V8 Vantage at 224k, a Honda S800 and an S600 at 50k. When re-running non-championship series I do not clear the win data and therefore do not win any cars to pimp. I have about 250 days left before the black LM cars become available again and need to get to 8m credits by then. I might need to re-think my pimping philosophy.

I don't see any point in adhering to a 'no money pumping' philosophy once you've got to 100% completion in A-Spec. There's nothing left for you to prove.

I noticed the other day that I've won something like 25 million in prizes (and this only counts the cash--not all the Mercedes CLK GTRs I've won and sold), but I'm still hundreds of cars short of owning every car in the game. The economic model in GT remains ridiculous--not as ridiculous as prior editions in terms of being able to complete the game, but even more ridiculous when comparing the total value of cars to buy with the total value of prizes to earn.

At present, I'm still three cars short of owning all the non-Japanese new cars in the game, and since that is two touring cars and the McLaren, that leaves me over 1-1/2 million credits short of that feat. Then there are all the used cars. That's probably another million, just for the non-Japanese models.

There's not challenge in presenting you with these expenses so much as thoughtlessness. Time to finally relent and train B-Spec Bob, methinks.

Now, if your OCD won't let you put B-Spec miles on your file, here is a workaround. Copy the file onto another memory card, B-Spec your way to riches and cars on that file, then trade those cars to your first file. Now you've got the cars, and preserved your A-Spec only stats.

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Moving on to the Professional Hall…

Clubman Cup

Using the Hommell Berlinette R/S Coupe ’99 with NA1 tuning, S3 tires, and a power of 198hp, victories of 154, 140 and 125 points were achieved at Apricot Hill, Motegi East and Seoul Rev (the straights are killers against much more powerful cars). At SSR5 Clubman and Deep Forest, I was able to ditch the NA1 tuning and add 200kg of ballast to record 200 point victories.

Turbo Sports

Played with this series quite a lot and eventually got 200 points in all 5 races using a Mitsubishi Evo III GSR ’95 fitted with S3 tires, chip and racing exhaust at 308hp. There are a couple of grids that show up that enable the addition of the racing intercooler while maintaining points at 200. This takes the Evo power up to 326hp. One of these grids includes the Lotus Esprit HC Turbo which is very fast. I encountered this at NY but luckily it was just in front of me on the grid meaning I could put other cars between him and me before he had warmed his tires. Even so I had to defend my position very vigorously on the home straight. Three of the five wins were by less than 0.1s – now that’s close racing.

Race of NA Sports

I’m going to provide more details on these series as I ran it in the Mustang GT ’05 and I just want to talk about that car

Infineon Sports – 3 laps – S2 tires – 200 ballast – 315hp – 191 points

Car / MOV / FL

1. Ford Mustang GT ’05 / winner / 1’47.085
2. Nissan 350Z (Z33) ’03 / +2.414 / 1’47.651
3. TVR Tamora ’02 / +3.744 / 1’48.290
4. Acura NSX Coupe ’97 / +11.828 / 1’48.911
5. Mercedes CLK55 AMG ’00 / +14.087 / 1’51.442
6. Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R ’00 / – / 1’53.679 (lap 2)

Apricot Hill Rev – 3 laps – setup same as Infineon – 149 points

1. Ford Mustang GT ’05 / winner / 1’36.685
2. Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R ’00 / +0.566 / 1’37.591
3. Callaway C12 ‘03 / +4.196 / 1’35.786
4. Audi S4 ‘03 / +7.718 / 1’39.150
5. BMW M3 ‘04 / +7.748 / 1’38.486
6. Pontiac GTO 5.7 Coupe ‘04 / +10.261 / 1’38.968

Twin Ring Motegi Road – 3 laps – setup same as Infineon – 173 points

1. Ford Mustang GT ’05 / winner / 2’11.781
2. TVR T350C ‘03 / +0.658 / 2’11.908
3. BMW M3 CSL ‘03 / +5.856 / 2’11.829
4. Acura NSX Coupe ‘97 / +8.300 / 2’12.893
5. Chevy Camaro SS ‘00 / +12.253 / 2’15.738
6. Pontiac GTO 5.7 Coupe ‘04 / – / 2’20.932 (lap 2)

Note how close the fastest lap times are for the first 3 cars.

SSR5 – 3 laps – setup same as Infineon – 200 points

1. Ford Mustang GT ’05 / winner / 1’38.006
2. TVR Tamora ‘02 / +1.984 / 1’35.954
3. Chevy Camaro SS ‘00 / +5.721 / 1’39.919
4. Chevy Corvette Grand Sport (C4) ‘96 / +6.000 / 1’39.931
5. Proto Motors Spirra 4.6 V8 ‘04 / +6.110 / 1’39.950
6. Acura NSX Coupe ‘97 / +7.081 / 1’39.746

The Spirra was in 3rd until just before the finish line when it got nailed by the Camaro and finished 5th.

Trial Mountain – 3 laps – setup same as Infineon – 200 points

1. Ford Mustang GT ’05 / winner / 1’41.593
2. Proto Motors Spirra 4.6 V8 ‘04 / +1.011 / 1’40.438
3. Pagani Zonda C12 ’00 / +5.430 / 1’41.610
4. TVR 350C ’03 / +8.731 / 1’42.323
5. Callaway C12 ‘03 / +12.917 / 1’43.620
6. Chevy Camaro SS ‘00 / – / 1’47.877 (lap 2)

As can be seen points values can vary quite significantly depending on the AI cars. Clearly there is the opportunity to get 200 point wins in the first three races by judicious field selection. May be later.

That ends this series of reports. A-Spec points are at 58,042 and I now have 55 ‘200 point’ victories. A-Spec point average is (58,042 – 8,500) / 523 = 94.7. Getting close to the 100 point average mark

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Forgot to say...

The 'A-Spec Points Assault' table in the Resource Section has been updated.

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As mentioned a couple of posts ago I ran the Mazda Club RE Series in the RX-8 Prototype and increased points from a total of 206 to 821. I decided to run the same setup in the RX-8 Cup as I’d previously only gotten 8 points per race – now there’s low fruit if ever I saw it . So, loaded with 200kg of ballast I enter the series and get a point’s rating of… 10. What!

I must say that I thought an RX-8 was an RX-8 was an RX-8. Boy was I wrong. The prototype kicks out over 280 horses, whereas the versions in the dealership are only putting out low 200s. I bought a Type E (J) ’03 at 210hp, and the heaviest I could see, put on some S1 tires, added 200kg of ballast and behold… each race is now worth 110 points. The AI comprised one regular RX-8, one Type S and three Type E’s. The class of the AI was the Type S, also the lightest, and I expect that a field containing more of these would have increased the point value. Anyway, that’s 500+ points I didn’t have before.

I sold the prize car, an RX-8 LM, after getting in it, and noticed that my garage is now empty and tool chests, and what looks like a crash helmet, are visible. I had never noticed this before.

With 2 out of 3 Mazda Races re-run, I next tackled the remaining series – the Roadster Cup. In my S-Special Type I ’95, I get a field that contains a VR Ltd, another S-Special, 1800RS, SR-Ltd and 1.8RS. Are there any other variants? At 139hp on S1 tires the races are rated at 172 points. Adding 100kg ballast increases this 187 points, 175kg to 197 points, and 200kg ballast to the magical 200 point mark. 200kg of ballast must be the exact amount required in this case . Well, I achieved the 200 point victories at Motegi East, SSR5 Clubman and Trial Mountain but had to ditch the ballast and use S3 tires to win at Tokyo and Tsukuba. These races were rated at 156 points. During this series, and while playing with tire selection, I discovered something that may be significant as I pursue my points hunt. Lugs: you may want to take note of this – but I apologize if this is old news.

As I said before, with 0 ballast and S1 tires the races were rated at 172 points. I was getting killed off the line at Tokyo so I switched the rear S1’s to S2’s. Expecting to see a point reduction I was surprised when the rating was again 172 points. Hm! This led to much investigation as follows:

S1/S1 tires: 172 pts
S1/S2 tires: 172 pts
S1/S3 tires: 172 pts
S2/S1 tires: 164 pts
S2/S2 tires: 164 pts

Spot the trend…

S2/S3 tires: 164 pts
S3/S1 tires: 156 pts
S3/S2 tires: 156 pts
S3/S3 tires: 156 pts

This leads me to the conclusion that points are modeled on front tires alone. Well I know that the fronts are critical from a handling standpoint, but don’t the rears convey some benefits with regard to braking, wheel spin, acceleration and oversteer – especially in an FR car. This could be a minor glitch in the PD algorithm but in this instance, unlike the NoS and Dodge glitches, is one that my conscience will allow me take advantage of.

Staying with the MX-5, I enter the 90’s series in the Japanese Hall and, after a bit of tweaking, get 200 point victories in all races. The AI comprises variants of the Silvia, Integra, Civic, Prelude and so on. The mix gives ratings between 185 points on S1/S3 tires with a racing exhaust and 146hp, and 200 points on S2/S3 tires with between 25 and 75kg of ballast while also at 146hp. I found the S2 tires to be essential for circuits with long straights, such as GV East and Fuji, in order gain more time on the turns than I would lose on the straights.

I think the MX-5, originally a 6.2 mile special, has paid me back with interest, and will therefore be parked for the rest of the game (with the exception of the Roadster Enduro where I have no other choice).

Again I’ve been spending money in the car lots and have just found an interesting looking ’83 Silvia that I will play with tonight. I also bought another Daihatsu Midget II and then ran the Midget Cup to see if I could get points of over 100. On black oil at 30hp this is no fun – on black oil with N3 tires this is painful, but getting close to the triple digit mark – on black oil with N3 tires and 25kg of ballast I think I’d rather spend time with Laurence Olivier’s ‘White Angel’. Anyway, 102 pts and I’ll never drive this race again.

I took a similar approach to the Subaru 360 Race and on N1 tires with 100kg of ballast secured a 107 point win. I likely try to do the same with the 2CV Championship but suspect that this will be the last time I use N tires as I find them no fun at all.

End of session sees me at 59,602 points and I now have 63 ‘200 pointers’ under my belt.

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posted 07-12-2005 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lugnut     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Well, I'll be dipped in shellack. I never realized that the A-Spec changes for tires were dependent on only the front set!

Getting ready to crest 60K eh? I'll never catch up at this rate. . .

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quote:
Originally posted by Lugnut:
Getting ready to crest 60K eh? I'll never catch up at this rate. . .

I'm sure that if you performed a tabulated race analysis as I did, you'll find lots of 'low-fruit' that you had forgotten all about. I was quite surprised to see a large number of single and low double digit scores. Two weeks from now I'll have to hang up the DS2's for another business trip, this time to Singapore, so you'll have another window of opportunity to close the gap.

Truth be told you only have yourself to blame. If it wasn't for the fact that you are playing the 'Points Game' alongside me (or should that be against me, LOL!) I would likely be playing something else now with the GT4 disc just gathering dust. This is definitely an aspect of the game that I wasn't expecting when I bought it all those months ago

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I did indeed have the rest of my teeth extracted and ran the 2CV series again to try to get all races up to triple digits. With N1 tires and 200kg ballast the races were rated 115 pts and victory was achieved at the first four venues. I failed however to win Tsukuba with this set up and resorted to S2 tires and 200kg ballast. This reduced the point rating to 80. That will have to do . I just can’t seem to run smooth enough lines at Tsukuba when burdened with ballast and crap tires and this is something I’ve noticed in other low hp series at this track. For a simple course it is actually the one that I have the most trouble with under these conditions – go figure.

The key to winning any of these races was to run as a Championship, qualify on pole (which unfortunately means driving an additional 10 laps in this POS) and use MT as the game engine doesn’t change gear when you want it to – regardless of how loudly you shout at the television set. The positive side to running this championship again was that I won another pink 2CV

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As a means of putting the painful memories of the Subaru 360, Daihatsu Midget and 2CV races behind me, I checked out the Premium Sports Lounge in the Professional Hall and proceeded to perform a lot of tests, and more importantly, have a lot of fun.

As you know the entrance requirement for these races is a power of 493hp or above. This power however, is the rating that the game gives the car on the power / torque curves and NOT the rating shown in the garage sort options. This precludes a number of cars that appear to be eligible unless power modifiers are applied. I looked at power, weight and PWR as a means of selecting a car that would realize high points and still be capable of winning the series.

Many of the stock vehicles that can enter are high powered sports cars with a low PWR, likewise for a number of vehicles that would need only a little power modification. I thought I had it with the Callaway C12 with an oil change and NA1 tune but it came in just a couple of hp short. Unfortunately this car already comes with a racing exhaust and the chip is not available, so the only way to make it eligible is to add an NA2 which takes the power way up in the 500’s and kills the PWR.

I next look at the Mercedes SL55 AMG at 525hp and weighing much more than anything else in this power bracket. Sure enough, when I enter the Seoul race I get rated 200 points on S2 tires. Unfortunately it’s woefully outclassed by a very high powered field. With S3 tires the points fall to 192 and it’s still out of its depth.

Falling back on the old favorite, the M3 CSL, I can’t get it to the 493hp level without applying all sorts of modifiers including an NA3, so that’s not going to cut it either. Out of curiosity I also check out the M3 GTR and find that with an oil change, NA1 tune and sports exhaust – note sports exhaust and not semi-racing or racing – the power is listed as 503hp in the garage and 496hp on the power curve. PWR is 2.685 which is much higher than cars I saw in the field when racing the AMG. This has potential so on S3 tires I enter Seoul again and get rated 183 points against a VW W12 Nardo Concept ’01; Saleen S7 ’02; Ford GT ’05; Cadillac Cien ’02 and Spyker C8 Laviolette ’02.

Well, much to my surprise and pleasure, the M3 GTR is a superb car and I hereby retract any negative comments I may have made about it in the past. Clearly this car needed a little tuning to bring out the best in it. The win is by over 3s and after the race I exit, save and reset the PS2 to investigate the set up required for a 200 point race. On S2 tires the race is given 194 pts and is still an easy win, S2 tires with 75kg ballast is rated 200 pts and I still win, but figure this may have been more junk than was needed so I run it once more with S2 tires and 50kg ballast and again get rated 200 pts. It may be possible to fine tune the ballast to less than 50 but I wasn’t that bothered. Under this set up the PWR is 2.785. The advantage of all these tests is that each win is worth 15k credits so I’m also helping the bank account.

So, entering Seoul one last time, and clearing previous results so I can win another Cizeta, I take the lead on lap 5 of 8 and win by nearly 5s. MOV and FL are shown below:

1. BMW M3 GTR ’03: Winner / 1’00.702
2. Saleen S7 ’02: +5.858 / 1’02.258
3. VW W12 Nardo Concept ’01: +8.307 / 1’02.539
4. Cadillac Cien ’02: +8.773 / 1’02.410
5. Ford GT ’05: +11.208 / 1’02.500
6. Spyker C8 Laviolette ’02: – / 1’04.496

Moving on to Fuji, and keeping the same set up, I look at entrant list #2 which comprises a Ford GT ’05; Tommy Kaira ZZII ’00; Cizeta V16T ’94; Audi Nuvolari Quattro ’03 and Callaway C12 ’03. This race however is only rated 149 pts and is an easy win by nearly 12s over the Ford GT and ZZII, despite being punted into the sand by the Ford on lap 1.

Re-running against grid #3 sees a 141 pt race against the Saleen; Zonda C12S 73 ’02; Ford GT ’05; Nuvolari and Callaway and is won by over 20s. It seems as though the fields are getting weaker and the wins are getting even easier. On trying to enter the race again against grid #4, the game won’t let me participate as my power is too low. Checking this out I see that the garage rates the GTR at 499hp and the power curve at 492hp. After only 135 miles the Beemer has lost 4hp but it goes back to 496hp after an oil change. Grid #4 here we come.

Field #4 is a ZZII; Ford GT ’05; Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car ’98; Acura HSC ’04 and Callaway and is only rated 114 points, but turns out to be the closest race yet, beating the ZZII by 8s as he had a clear run from pole position.

Field #5 is rated 147 pts against the Spyker; Nardo; Saleen; SLR McLaren and Callaway, and results in a 14s win over the Nardo. Field #6 is only worth 95 pts and this is the point I gave up. Clearly grid #1 is the point’s maker so I rerun Fuji again after a PS2 reset and get the 200 point race and 10s win over the Cien, who was at least that ahead of the Nardo in third. Clearly it’s the Cadillac that drives up the points and on viewing the replay I saw him hit 195mph on the straight, that’s 25mph faster than the M3 GTR.

A save and reset later and I’m lined up against the same field at New York for 200 points. This was an ugly race with three different cars using me as a backstop, but still resulted in a 2s win over the Nardo, followed by the Saleen and Cien.

That’s it for now – 12 runs of three races (with analysis) takes a lot of time but the reward is over 200k credits. I just have Midfield and Infineon to go to hopefully record another full series of 200 point races. In the process of the above racing I passed the 60,000 point mark and had a lot of fun. The BMW M3 GTR has certainly found a place in my heart.

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posted 07-14-2005 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for miko     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Not that much to report today. I did finish off the Midfield and Infineon races in the Supercar Festival in the BMW M3 GTR for 200 points each. The best of the AI is the Caddy but he starts at fourth on the grid and seems to have trouble passing the GT, Nardo and Saleen. If he gets past them he’s the fastest on the course and was sniffing my exhaust at Midfield.

In the manufacturer events I went back and put 200 points on the board for all of the Speedster races and, although this wasn’t a huge point injection, it proved a lot of fun as I dropped the stage 3 turbo on the Speedster and ran it at only 330hp. This kept points at 200 even though I was on R2 tires. The other series I tidied up was the Shelby Cup and I now have 200 points in all of these races by using the Series 1 Supercharged with S2 tires and a fair load of junk.

Next up I headed to the European Hall and decided to look for an ‘underdog’ for the Deutsche Touring Car Championship. I found what I thought was the perfect entrant, it having a low enough stock power that points would be high, while having ample opportunity for upgrades should the AI prove to be too strong. So, spending 450k credits, I find myself sitting in a BMW 320i Touring Car and head off to the Championship. You cannot imagine my surprise when the game tells me that the car is not eligible for the event . What! This is the German Touring Car Championship, right? – BMW is German, right? – a 320i Touring Car is a (duh) touring car, right? So why can’t I enter it? I decided to watch a movie after this rather than ponder the inponderables.

If anyone has a definitive, logical or even tenuous explanation for this please let me know. The only one I can think of includes a rearranging of the words Digital, Incompetence and Polyphony.

Anyway, points at the end of the session have increased to 60,803 and I now have 77 races at 200 points. The table in the Resource Section has been updated.

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posted 07-14-2005 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lugnut     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I don't have an answer for you, but you've satisfied a point of curiosity for me. In my quest to purchase one of every new car, I noticed this car for the first time. It struck me because as many times as I've money pumped at the DTM, I've never seen this car run there. [Though one sees an Italian car in the German touring car championship regularly.] Now, at least, I know why: because it is not eligible. The question as to why its illegal for this race, however, remains an open one. Just another in a long list of wrinkles that never got ironed out.

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posted 07-14-2005 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Littleg     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
'S prolly something to do with PD trying to recreate the DTM proper - big V8s, minimal relation to road cars, wings-and-slicks, all that jazz. I take it the Italian car refered to here is the Alfa 146 Touring Car? Because I think that raced in Germany at the same time as things like the old 4WD Calibra. The Bimmer 320i is more of a European touring car (likely to race in something like the BTCC or the ETCC) than a full-on red meat DTM monster.

I could be blowing hot air there of course, you'll be unsurprised to hear that my pedestrian passage through the game has yet to get me to the DTM races...

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posted 07-15-2005 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for miko     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
to you Lugs. You were right on the money with the Prius, both from a Sunday Cup perspective and with regard to the interest in the in-car readout. 200 points are now banked for all the Sunday Cup Races – and they were actually pretty easy races in the stock Pruis with either 100 or 200kg ballast according to the AI line-up. The ’89 Miata showed up a few times but even when on pole he was a distant also ran. The fastest AI was the MGF and we were often 5 to 10s ahead of the rest of the field. This is one I owe you. I will, eventually, go back to the FF races but I want to try to find something to use other than the Chrysler.

After my disappointment at not being able to use the BMW 320i Touring Car at the DTM, I reassess the options for this race. After some analysis I enter the championship in my stock Opel Calibra Touring Car ’04, with a pre oil change power of 427hp, on R3 tires, with 200kg of ballast. One of the key point’s determinators in these races is the AI and I reset a couple of times to get what I had calculated to be the strongest field. This comprised the Mercedes CLK, Opel Astra, Audi A4, Abt Audi TT-R and Alfa 155 Touring Cars. If the field contains a Mercedes Evo or another Calibra, points are significantly lower than the 174 that I was offered for each race. I found the field I was looking for on grid #3.

Running as a Championship (this keeps the field the same) and qualifying on pole in each race, there is little to report other than relatively comfortable wins. I did run a 7’08 at Nurby, which I was pleased with considering the ballast. After winning another CLK-GTR I sold my original so that I have a non oil change version, and therefore lower power and higher PWR, to play with in the Class C races. I also re-entered at Paris solely to investigate the 200 point requirements. With R2 tires, 200kg of ballast and d/f set to 35/50 (only 3 clicks down from maximum), the point rating is 200, and I will attempt this at a later date now that I have the formula.

Staying with the German theme I ran the Schwarzwald Liga A. I’m pleased to say that I have found the killer 200 point car for this series. It was a 6.2 mile special, fitted with a chip and racing exhaust, on S3 tires and putting out 172hp. As I haven’t seen many German 6.2 mile specials I won’t make you work for the identity – it’s the VW Golf IV GTI ’01.

Trial Mountain – 3 laps

Car / MOV / FL

1. VW Golf IV GTI ’01: winner / 1’49.120
2. Audi S3 ’02: +0.758 / 1’50.921
3. Audi TT Coupe 3.2 Quattro ’03: +6.529 / 1’50.372
4. BMW 330i ’05: +9.080 / 1’50.709
5. BMW M Coupe ’98: +9.851 / 1’50.507
6. BMW Z4 ’03: +10.610 / 1’50.655

The victory should have been by a larger margin except I had forgotten to turn off the driving assists – duh!

Opera Paris – 4 laps

1. VW Golf IV GTI ’01: winner / 1’42.720
2. Audi TT Coupe 3.2 Quattro ’03: +5.379 / 1’43.984
3. VW Golf IV R32 ’03: +6.614 / 1’43.432
4. BMW M Coupe ’98: +12.414 / 1’43.869
5. Audi S3 ’02: +13.579 / 1’43.560
6. BMW Z4 ’03: +14.413 / 1’43.271

Autumn Ring – 4 laps

1. VW Golf IV GTI ’01: winner / 1’35.450
2. BMW M Coupe ’98: +0.669 / 1’36.288
3. Audi S3 ’02: +1.218 / 1’36.613
4. Audi A3 3.2 Quattro ’03: +2.959 / 1’35.174
3. VW Golf IV R32 ’03: +4.379 / 1’35.386
6. BMW Z4 ’03: +5.597 / 1’36.197

Lastly, as a trial for future races, I entered the Liga B race at Nürburgring in a Mercedes SL500 (R230) ’02 at 306hp. I really enjoy Nurby, although the SL500, at nearly 2 tons, was a bit of a bus. Nevertheless, I achieved a 175 point victory from last on the grid as follows:

1. Mercedes SL500 (R230) ’02: 8’13.965
2. Mercedes E55 AMG ’02: 8’16.036
3. Mercedes SL55 AMG (R230) ’02: 8’16.356
4. Audi RS4 ’01: 8’16.610
5. Audi S4 ’03: 8’16.984
6. Audi RS6 Avant ’02: 8’24.992

Despite winning this race, and the fact that the SL500 could clearly be tuned for 200 points, I’m not sure that it is the car for this series, as its acceleration out of slow turns might make it somewhat underpowered for the other courses.

With that, the session ended at 62,115 points and my 200 point race tally stands at 85. I think my objective of 100 of these races will be achieved with ease and therefore may have been somewhat conservative – famous last words

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posted 07-15-2005 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sukerkin     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Just for information, Miko, I did the Liga B in an SL500 but I had to do an awful lot to her (including fitting a Roll Cage, one of the few occaisions where I found it make a positive contribution to a road cars handling).

I ran it again in a stock (plus oil change) CSL and had a much easier time with A-Spec points in the 90 - 120 range if I recall correctly).

As I've just had a fun time with the Skyline races in the Nissan Manufacturers series, I'll post my notes here in the hope that they'll be of some use to you - if that's an intrusion into your thread, please don't be shy about saying so.

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MANUFACTURERS CHAMPIONSHIP
JAPAN NISSAN
Race of the Red “R” Emblem

Any Tyre Type
Permitted Cars: Any Skyline
International A Licence Required

Prize Money: 12,000 cr/Race
Prize Car: NISMO GT-R LM Road Going Version ‘95 (106, 249cr)

1) Twin Ring Motegi Road Course (10 laps) ROLLING
2) Trial Mountain Reverse (6 laps) GRID
3) Fuji Speedway ‘80’s (4 laps) GRID
4) New York Reverse (6 laps) ROLLING
5) Suzuka (6 laps) GRID

Try this in a NISSAN Skyline GTS25 Type S ‘91 bought second-hand with an oil change, chassis refresh, chip & exhaust, Stage 2 NA Tune, Semi-Race Suspension, 3-Plate Clutch, Racing Flywheel, Carbon Driveshaft, Custom Gearbox.

Race 1 Opposition: Skyline GT-R M-Spec, HT 200GT, GT-R ’91, GT-R ’97, GT-R ‘00

A-Spec Points = 163 MOV: loss by 2.5 secs

Leave AutoSet stock at 7, as I have no idea what is needed yet. Screwed it up by pushing too hard on lap 5. I couldn’t get closer to the lead car than about 4.5 to 5 seconds. The car actually handles very nicely here. Gearbox was too short but she drove fine. The opposition really has the legs on her in the straights tho’.

Tried again with AutoSet at 5. MOL (Margin of loss) about 2.5 secs – I oh so nearly had him! His tyres must’ve been going as I kept doing steady mid 2:13’s and was catching him up. No surprise that it was the M-Spec that won. I was about ten seconds up on the rest of the GT-R’s. I think the shorter box actually hurt performance and it wasn’t until I remembered to short-shift because it was a Skyline that I started making up ground. Want to make this car work now; I’ve invested too much race time to leave it without a victory . Try a Weight Reduction 1 (1320kg down to 1201kg).

Opposition: GT-R ’97, GT-R Vspec ’97, GT-R M.N.P. III ’00, GT-R M-Spec ’01, GT-R V-spec II ’00

That looks like a tough crowd . 161 A-Spec Points. MOV: Huge

The GT-R ’97 came second but a long way back. I turned in a 2:12.1 as a best lap, which I was pretty pleased with.

Race 2 Opposition: HT 2000 RS-X and RS, GT-R M-Spec ’01, GT-R ’91, GT-R ’00,

A-Spec Points = 160 MOV: 3.227 including a massive off and spin that cost me 15 seconds :lol:

AutoSet left at 7, which suited this track very well. The car showed high-speed instability in the last turn and the first Esses. The GT-R ’00 was second. Everything else was a long way back.

Race 3 Opposition: 2000GT-R, GT-R M.N.P. III, GT-R Vspec II ‘94, GT-R V-spec II ’00, HT 2000GT-R

Doesn’t look like many heavy hitters there and the A-Spec points agree.

A-Spec Points = 122 MOV: 1.445

The AutoSet of 7 was too short here. 8 or maybe 9 would’ve been better. The GT-R M.N.P II was second with the V-Spec II ’00 right behind him.

AutoSet put to 9. She actually handled okay here – not great but good enough. Gearbox was too long. Maybe 7 or 8 would be better.

Race 4 Opposition: GTS-R ’87, HT 2000GT-R, 2000GT-R, GT-R V-spec II Nur ’02, GT-R M-Spec ‘01

A-Spec Points = 117 MOV: 7.980

AutoSet left at stock 7. S’okay. GTS-R (R31) ’87 came second.

Race 5 Opposition: GT-R M.N.P. III, HT 2000GT-R, GT-R V-spec II ’00, GT-R V-spec II Nur ’02, HT 2000 Turbo RS ‘83

A-Spec Points = 146 MOV = 1.912

AutoSet left at 7. Second place was the M.N.P. This race was hard work as it’s a fast track that plays into the AI’s hands.

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Glad you’re still with us Sukie – and please continue to use this as a ‘dumping ground’ for such information – very useful – for me and I’m sure for others

I did indeed complete the Liga B in the Mercedes SL500 at 306hp – good close fun racing – and got 166 points at Tokyo, 181 at Fuji, 200 at High Speed Ring and 175 at Suzuka, to go with the 175 I’d already got at Nurby. To win Tokyo and Fuji, I needed fields that didn’t contain the SL55 AMG, other than that the grids were as drawn. This is a sweet little car and a lot of fun to drive.

I next took the SL500 to the ‘Legend of the Silver Arrow’ races. I noted some bizarre fields in these races that included the McLaren SLR and A160 Avantgarde on the same grid – not quite as disparate as the dichotomy seen in the classic car races, but pretty disparate nevertheless. I found a few grids that didn’t contain the McLaren and these were the races of choice. I achieved 104 points at Fuji vs. the CLK55 AMG; E55 AMG, SLK230, CL600 and A160. The win is by 4.879s over the E55 AMG, with the SLK230 in third at +5.740s – clearly he’s carrying a lot of upgrades. A similar grid for Nurby except the CL600 had been replaced by an 190E Evo, and a slightly smaller MOV to Fuji, this time over the SLK230 (who pulled 160 on the straights – told you he was upgraded – QED). For Opera Paris I decided to give my own second hand, black oil SLK230 a go. On S3 tires at 176hp I manage to secure a 200 point win against a 190E, A160, CL600, E55 AMG and CLK55 AMG. That was fun

Before putting the SL500 to bed I ran the SL Challenge. Races were rated 109, 131 and 130 points. At Apricot Hill and Fuji I need an NA1 to keep up with SL55/65 AMG. This increased power to 346hp and I compensated somewhat by running with 200kg of ballast. El Capitan was run at 306hp for the 130 points.

For a little additional Mercedes fun, I took the 190E Evo II Touring Car ’92, won in the Liga B, to the DTM. In stock trim at 382hp, R3 tires and carrying 200kg of ballast, the races were quite comfortable at 193 points each. It would be relatively easy to convert these to 200 points races just by reducing the wing a little. I think this would be easier than running the races in the Calibra on R2 tires for the 200 points. Anyway, that’s another CLK-GTR for the ‘Black Beauty’ fund.

Lastly for the Mercs, I tested the 190E Touring Car in the Dream Car Championship and was rewarded with a 200 point win in the first race at Paris. This was in stock trim with no ballast. I started from pole and the Nissan GT-R Concept was between 0.1 and 0.6s behind at every checkpoint through the race. On this basis I don’t think this is the car for this series and promptly withdrew.

Well, it was fun while it lasted but that’s all for the Mercedes – for the time being at least.

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posted 07-18-2005 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for miko     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Other weekend racing…

Boxer Series: Now all at 200 points using a second-hand Scoobie Doo 22B STi with black oil.

Blackpool Races: Using a 6.2 mile special TVR V8S ’91 with oil change and putting out 255hp on S3 tires, all races except Fuji are now worth 200 points. For 200 point races the field must include the Speed 12 and must not include another V8S. This is a great handling car and wins were between 2 and 5s including SSR5 – and no blocking whatsoever was required – who needs to block in these races? . Fuji was a different story however, and not only could I not beat the Speed 12, but I couldn’t even get close to it. I was losing 4-6s per lap against this sucker who could pull 200mph down the straight. If anybody can get a 200 pointer at Fuji in this series, they’re either a better man than me, or they cheat! So, Fuji is only worth 119 points against a Speed 12 free field.

British GT Championship: Just to see how good the TVR V8S is, I take it to the British GT at 255hp, on S3 tires. Against a TVR T350C ’03; Lotus Esprit V8 SE ’98; TVR Tuscan Speed 6 ’00; Aston Martin DB9 Coupe ’03 and TVR Tamora ’02 and sweep the board with 200 point races. These were some of the most enjoyable races I’ve had in GT4 and the V8S is another car I recommend wholeheartedly. Not only does it handle superbly and beat much more powerful fields, but its V8 sounds great – more excellent replays to watch, this time with the sound turned way up . An interesting feature of this series was that there were 4 different second placed cars – another indication that the grid often contains cars that are tuned very differently.

Various Japanese Hall Races: I tidied up the Japan Championship in the Garaiya ASL and these are now all 200 point races. This is another fun series of races which additionally gives 72.5k credits in purses, and a prize car worth 318k. The Japan 70’s Classics were converted to triple digit scores using a Celica 1600 GT (TA22) ’70, and the Japan 80’s Festival are now all worth over 175 points (including two 200 point wins) in the Toyota MR-2 1600 G-Ltd Supercharger ’86 – another 6.2 mile special.

Other: La Festa Italiano races are now worth 167 / 175 and 174 points – run in the Lancia Stratos with S2 tires and 200 ballast. Watching the AI at Infineon in this series is pretty funny. Points were also increased in the Premium Sports Lounge in the BMW M3 CSL; the Stars of the Pleiades in the Subaru 22B-STi, Tours France using a Renault 5 Turbo, the Aston Martin Carnival using the Vanquish with ballast and lastly in the World Compact Cup where triple digit races were achieved in a 6.2 mile special Opel Tigra 1.6i. Alll updates can be found in the table in the Resource Section.

Lastly, in waiting for Day 1,394 to come around, I took the GT-R Pace Car for a spin at the High Speed Ring in the Race of the Turbo Sports. Although of no point’s consequence, the race was rated 184 points and, in completely stock trim, I proceeded to beat a Mazda RX-7 Barthurst by over 4s. The replay is amusing with all of the lights flashing (and I have to say it’s very well modeled) and looks like a traffic cop chasing down 5 other cars. The moral of this I guess is that this car appears to be very capable of 200 point races in this series and could be a novel way for somebody to achieve this – have fun Lugs

The session ended with me buying the ‘Black Beauty’ Mazda 787B and Nissan R390. I now have more cars to play with, along with the plethora that I have been buying over the last few weeks. My funds are again depleted (although I still have the cab fare home) so the other black Class C cars will have to wait for another 700 days.

To close, points total is now 66,976 and the tally for 200 point races is 109 . The Resource Table has been updated, and although it’s clear that there are still a lot of points to be had, there are many races that I won’t be re-running simply because they’re no fun – after all, I don’t need points that badly

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With all that inventiveness going on over yonder I dived back into the American Hall to find an alternative solution to the All American Championship. Well, I now have 80% of the solution, that is 4 of the 5 races are now worth 200 points, the missing one of course being New York. At NY I have got to within 2s of the lead but am having trouble catching up the rolling start disadvantage from #6 on the grid. Mind you, the +2s race included a couple of ‘less-than-perfect’ laps so I think this is doable with a perfect 4-lap run. Seattle, Infineon, El Capitan and Laguna Seca went down without too much trouble, the lead being taken and held on either the penultimate or last lap. The car – a Ford RS200 Rally Car ‘85 fitted with R3 tires.

I also tidied up the Hot Rod Competition in the Pontiac Solstice and these races are now all at 200 points. I’d already done New York which left El Cap and Laguna Seca. What a difference in races! On S2 tires and loaded with a full trunk of junk the field choice for the 200 pointer was, in grid order, Callaway C12, Mustang Cobra, Viper, GTO 5.7 and Shelby Series 1. El Capitan was won with a 17s lead at the last checkpoint, while LS was won by 0.008s over the Callaway. At LS I spent the whole race chipping away at the lead of the Callaway and Viper from the ubiquitous rolling start, finally taking the lead on the last turn.

This now means that 13 of the 14 races in the American Hall are at max points with only the AAC New York race to go for a clean sweep. Hopefully tonight!

The only other thing I achieved last night was in the Beginners Hall. I have to say that I’m pretty much ready to concede defeat in this Hall to Chicago tenacity, but I did want to try to improve on the measly 10 point races I had in Sports Truck Series. Instead of going with the lowest power vehicle, I went with the highest PWR and this is the Chevy SSR ’03. After a trial at Seattle I quickly added a full transmission upgrade as the stock gear spacing is terrible – particularly from 2nd to 3rd. With 200kg of ballast I gradually worked down the tire choice and am pleased to report that these races are now worth exactly 100 points each on N2 tires. This was as far as I could take it and required that the SST Concept started no higher than #3 on the grid. On N2 tires your slow-in-fast-out technique is really put to the test.

So, for now, I have to say it’s Chicago: 1 vs. Houston: 0. WTG Lugs

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I did indeed finish up the All American Championship in the Ford RS200 Rally Car ’85. New York didn’t hold out for long once I switched to R4 tires, added a small amount of ballast, and cut d/f by a few notches to maintain the points at 200. Starting #6 on the grid, lap 1 was spent catching and passing the 2D and old GT40, laps 2 and 3 catching, drafting and passing a new GT, the Camaro and the Viper, and lap 4 was spent holding off a charging Viper to win by 0.4s. This means that we now know of two cars that can complete this Championship, and I suspect that Lug’s other suggestion of the big Shelby would also prove correct. That’s the American Hall maxed out from a point’s standpoint .

I next jumped into one of the Black Beauties for a run out – no not one of those – the real Black Beauty –the Zonda of course . Reacquainting myself with my baby, I wanted to add to its tally of Class C scalps, and took it to the Real Circuit Tours. Of the eight races, I’d already got 200 points at Suzuka, (in the Nissan GT-R Concept LM), Nurby (in the BMW McLaren F1 GTR) and Laguna Seca (in the Zonda).

Entering the Zonda at Tsukuba, and using the notes I had taken previously, I knew the grid I wanted and the strategy to employ – so on R2 tires, rated 200 points, I watched the field put around 1 to 1½ seconds per lap on me in the knowledge that all of my opponents would eventually pit. Sure enough the Jaguar pitted on lap 10, the GT-One and Speed 8 on lap 12, the BMW V12 on lap 13 and the Pescarolo C60 on lap 14. I was around 20s behind the C60 at the start of lap 14 and I had a big smile on face because I knew what to expect. The final winning margin was around 2s. The moral here is that you can have the slowest car and yet still have a winning strategy.

Unfortunately I couldn’t repeat this success at Infineon despite a number of attempts. Closest yet is second place, about 2s behind a Nissan R92CP. I haven’t given up yet though and will return to California this evening.

I was also able to attain 200 point wins in the same series at Motegi and Sarthe, both in the Mercedes CLK-GTR Race Car at 797hp. Again on R2 tires, Motegi was won on pit strategy and Sarthe with speed – field selection again being important. That’s 6 of the 8 Real Circuit races at 200 points with Infineon and Fuji GT ’05 (sucks!) needed to complete the set. The CLK-GTR should cope with Fuji comfortably and I will try (and likely try again) to win Infineon in the Zonda.

Points are now 67,842 and the 200 point tally is 119. The Zonda and I will be back .

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So, I head back to the Real Circuit Tours with Infineon and Fuji 2005GT remaining. I decided that as I had two 200 pointers in the Zonda, two in the CLK-GTR and one each in the GT-R Concept LM and the BMW F1, that for symmetry (OCD again?) I would attempt the last two races in the Nissan and the Beemer. Which car for which course was an easy decision as the GT-R had already proved its worth at Infineon in the Enduro, and additionally would not have the top speed to cope with Fuji.

Infineon was indeed an easy 200 point win in the GT-R fitted with R2 tires and with an output of 657hp. The AI comprised a Bentley Speed 8, Nissan R390, Toyota GT-One, Audi R8 and Nissan R92CP. Clearly the car to beat is the big Nissan but starting from #5 on the grid he didn’t really get moving until lap 3 when he set about chasing down the Bentley who had built a 4s lead at this point. I was in a comfortable 3rd place ahead of the GT-One, R8 and R390 before the pit stops starting playing into my hands. First to pit were the two Nissans on lap 7 (the R92CP should have probably pitted on lap 6 as he wiped out big time on lap 7 and lost about 5s), the rest of the field on lap 8. At the end of the pit stops I had a very comfortable lead and finished the 9 lap race 11.521s ahead of the Bentley and 13.637s ahead of the R92CP. Only 1 race to go in this series and it’s time to give the BMW another run out.

The 8 lap race at Fuji 2005GT was a lot of fun, despite the fact that I find this circuit one of the most visually unattractive ones in the game. At 642hp on R3 tires this race became a race of two halves – they being split between the three cars that pitted and the three that didn’t. The fastest car in the race was the Nissan R89C, but as he pitted on lap 6 he became an also ran along with the Gillet Vertigo and the Nissan R390, who pitted on laps 6 and 7 respectively, but were a long way off the pace by then anyway. The three cars who didn’t pit were yours truly, the Bentley Speed 8 who finished 3rd at +6.868s, and the Audi R8 who put up a spirited effort to finish only 1.181s behind the BMW. The BMW likes it fast and smooth [insert smart comments here ], therefore the Fuji Circuit is a good venue for it to show off its capabilities. Fastest laps in the race were 1’25.868 for the Beemer, 1’25.479 for the Audi, 1’25.832 for the Bentley (so you see how closely these three were matched), 1’23.905 for the R89C, 1’27.824 for the Vertigo and 1’28.121 for the R390. The R3 tires were decidedly orange at the end of the race and would have struggled to have gone another lap.

That’s it then for the Real Circuit Tours, 8 races at 200 points , 8 wins in underdog cars, especially the Zonda, GT-R and BMW , and 4 x 2 symmetry in the winning cars .

I went back to the Race of NA Sports to tidy up the remaining 200 point races in the Mustang GT, and, although Infineon was accomplished painlessly, I found Apricot Hill and Motegi to be too straight and too fast for the ‘Tang to deal with. I need to rethink these two races at a later date.

Finally, I satisfied my burning desire to give the black 787B a run out and chose the GT World Championship as its proving ground. Keeping the black oil, at 725hp, on R2 tires and with a tested minimum ballast of 80kg, points are 200 against the first grid i.e. Minolta, the two big Nissans, the CLK-GTR and the Vertigo. So far, the first five races are complete, four of them with 200 point results. The hold out for the time being is Hong Kong where I achieved 145 points on R3 tires, 1 pit stop and no ballast. The win however, was by nearly 40s over the Minolta so a 200 pointer is not out of the question. I don’t think R2’s will last the whole race and I really don’t want to go to R1’s, so I will re-run at some point on R2/R3 tires, accepting that I need a pit stop anyway, with the 80kg of ballast. The last five races in this series should be completed tonight. The used 787B, with a rigidity refresh, is every bit as good as a new 787B and, as Lugs previously reported, gets much higher point’s ratings. Using it is not an imaginative solution to this Championship, but it still has to be driven, is deemed legitimate and gives the desired result. I will however try not use it in any races other than these.

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Moving on to New York in the GT World Championship, it dawned on me at about lap 8 of this 15 lap race, that PD had been quite cunning in the course selection and race duration for this series. A tire selection that would go the entire distance in some races would fall woefully short in others – this series requires a little thought and really does require different strategies from race to race. I say this because on lap 8 it was very clear that my 200 point set-up of R2 tires and 80kg ballast in the ‘used’ 787B was not going to cut it. I had been cruising in second place about 5s behind the Minolta and expecting to move into a sizeable lead when he pitted and I didn’t – smacks forehead – now, mid-race, I had to rethink the situation. So, pitting on the same lap as the Minolta, with about a 5s deficit, I made the switch to R3 tires (mid-race changes of tire type have no effect on A-Spec points) and went on a 5 lap mission to chase down the Toyota. It ended up being pretty easy and I finished the race with around an 8s advantage. I am however, impressed that PD requires you to think in this Championship – at least they made me think.

At Paris I started the race on R2/R3 tires, expecting to pit at the mid point of the race. Miko makes another mistake . On lap 8 my rear R3’s are starting to blush and will not make it through to the end of lap 9 when I had planned to pit. So, I pit at the end of lap 8, switch to R2’s all around and exit the pits in 4th place behind the two Nissans and the Minolta. Normality was resumed when the AI pitted at the end of lap 10 and I ended up with another comfortable 9s win. Interestingly, it was the Nissan R89C that took 2nd place – a comfortable 2nd at that.

Suzuka, GV Reverse and Sarthe were much less eventful, bar the Nissans blowing their tires on lap 4 at Sarthe and performing some elegant dance steps at the double chicane, and were completed on R2 tires, with 80kg of ballast, for 200 points, with no pit stops. That means that 9 out of 10 of the races in this championship are worth 200 points, the hold-out being Hong Kong which I’ll return to later. The most bizarre thing about winning this championship, and therefore another ‘cover car’, was that at its end the game told me I had unlocked the ending movie – again – weird.

The next 3 or so hours were spent at the Tuning Car Championship and involved a lot of car testing, head scratching, yard pacing and frustration. I wanted to use a vehicle that was in keeping with the series so I scratched all prototypes, concepts, race cars, touring cars, rally cars etc. from the candidate list, and looked for either a Tuner car, or a normal car that I had tuned. This proved difficult due to the additional challenge of finding the ‘200 point’ car. Luckily the cash revenue from the previous races had taken me to about 800k credits so I was able to go on a mini spending spree at the Tuner dealerships.

Two versions of Nismo and one of Amuse later, and I still hadn’t found the killer car, or indeed even one that was competitive. The AI in this series comprises tuning Cars – duh! – and high end RUF models – the problem is that the tuning cars are not stock – I know it’s an oxymoron but you know what I mean – some even have racing tires fitted – and they would run away from my stock versions. If I made my car competitive the points rating would collapse. A lot of tests later and I had Nismo scratched, Amuse scratched, BMW scratched, Speedster scratched, ASL scratched, TVR scratched, Mazda RX-7 Bathurst scratched, and then finally I hit the jackpot .

The car I used was fitted out with full transmission & suspension upgrades, a racing exhaust, NA1 tune up, and R3 tires. Putting out 310hp it was rated 200 points against a Nismo Skyline GT-R R-Tune ’99; RUF BTR ’86; Spoon S2000 ’00; Opera Performance S2000 ’04 and Mines Lancer Evo VI ’00. With an additional chip and 322hp the points dropped to 195, and if I used an NA2 with racing exhaust the points were 154 at a power of 361hp.

200 point wins were achieved at Apricot Hill Reverse – by 0.264s over the Opera S2000; Fuji – by 0.096s over the RUF; El Capitan (no surprise there!) – by 5.445s over the RUF and Tsukuba – by 1.235s over the Opera S2000. Tokyo proved too much and is only currently rated 154 points with a 2.423s win over the Opera S2000 – I need to return against a field that doesn’t include that sucker.

There were a few key elements and observations that enabled me to win these races...

Firstly, I entered as a championship and qualified on pole for every race. I found it essential to either enter or exit turn 1 in first place in order that I could use my tire advantage to the maximum during the first lap. As all the AI could get off the line as fast as or faster than me, starting at #6 on the grid put me in sixth place at turn 1 behind a mass of jostling vehicles. Normally the first car to turn 1 would escape and quickly put a few seconds on the rest of the field.

Secondly, the Opera S2000 hits the afterburners during the second half of the race. I noted that his fastest laps were always posted on his last lap and were often up to 3s faster than his previous lap, and for that matter 3s faster than the rest of the field. Therefore it’s important to build at least this level of lead before the start of the last lap. At AH for example I was nearly 4s up at the end of lap 2 and ending up winning by only 0.264s.

Thirdly, at Fuji the RUF has the fastest straight line speed. I found that by drafting the RUF on laps 1 and 2 we could put time on the Opera S2000, BUT only if he missed the draft on lap 1.

Fourth, gearing is important, and I adjusted the auto setting appropriate to each circuit, adding a couple of clicks for the drafting at Fuji. I found many of the tuner cars I tried had very poor gear spacing and seemed on occasions to take for ever to shift. The car I used has an excellent power / torque curve that appeared conducive to rapid gear shift.

Lastly, I found the R3 tires to be much more important than added power as this enabled me to take an early advantage in each race and build a big enough lead during the first two laps for me to protect on the last lap.

Oh yes, nearly forgot , the car – a Clio Renault Sport V6 Phase 2 ’03. Points are now 69,864 and the 200 point tally is 135. The resource table will be updated later today.

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Thanks for all of the work you have done on the A-spec points challenge, I am half interested in the A-spec points but a very interested in the competitive races you have been having. I just completed the Sunday cup with 200pt A-spec wins with a bit of help from a Prius. I wonder who told me that? The only difference is that I found the '02 Prius to need less tweaking than the '03 version to achieve 200pt wins. Also just for fun I used a Honda S500 for the Autumn Ring race. With race muffler, ROM and S3's it won easily at 200pts but it does not have enough legs to compete on circuits with longer straights. It has a minimum of half the hp of the other cars.

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Well, these will be my last ‘racing’ posts for a couple of weeks as business is taking me overseas again (by the way LDM – the kudos for the discovery of the Prius goes to Lugs ).

The main series I ran this weekend was the All Japan GT (and baby, have I found a killer car for that ) but before we get there I’ll just give a little overview of the other miscellany that I did.

I attempted the two NA Sports races that were too much for the Mustang GT due to their high speed nature, i.e. Apricot Hill and Motegi, in the Clio Sport V6 Phase 2, that had performed so well in the Tuning Car series. To cut a long story short AH went down for 200 points very comfortably, but I’m stuck at 198 points at Motegi. The rolling start here presents perhaps the biggest disadvantage on any course – equating to a good 4 or 5 seconds. The 198 pointer saw me passing the TVR T350C at the last turn. With 20kgs of ballast to take it to 200 points, I kept coming up about ½s short. Oh well, 198 points will have to do for now.

Next up was the World Compact Car Championship in the Professional Hall, and thankfully the opportunity to qualify on pole. I tried various little passion wagons to improve the scores I’d got in the Opel Tigra, and finally stumbled onto the Mitsubishi i ’03. By running various set-ups I was able to increase points from 140 across the board first time through, to 180 second time and finally to 200 points, at least in 4 out of the 5 races – GVE is still holding out at 180 points (having one race hold out is becoming a bit of a recurring theme for me in the Professional Hall). The races were certainly close, as witnessed by the ‘blanket’ finish shown below…

The little Mitsu was also good for increasing my points in the Japanese Compact Cup to 174 across the board. This was on S2 tires with a full load of junk. I’m sure these could be converted to higher points with poorer tires. Alongside the Prius, this car suffers no gear change lag, and just whines along at 6,000+ revs regardless of speed. Weird little car!

All Japan GT next…

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The All Japan GT ended up being one of the most pleasurable series I have driven, in a car that definitely makes it into my top-five list. Keeping in tune with this being a JGTC series, I looked for a lesser version to enable high points. The car I bought was the RE Amemiya Asparadrink RX-7 (JGTC) ’04 for 500k credits.

Qualifying on pole for each race, which on standing starts normally meant getting to turn 1 in 3rd place, I managed 200 point wins in all 10 races that generally followed a set pattern. I would put 1 to 2s on the field for the first laps as they warmed their tires, hold the lead I’d built for the next couple of laps, and then watch the AI pull back a little over the closing laps, especially those races where my tires were starting to fade. Talking about tires, this was the key to the series – I used R4 tires to compensate for my lack of power, and added 40kg of ballast to hit the 200 point mark against a field that (deliberately) did not include the Nissan Motul Pitiwork Z. The RX-7 was at a pre-oil change power of 324hp.

To demonstrate how good this car is, over the whole series of 10 races I touched the sand only twice, once at Suzuka East when I was experimenting on different lines as I had such a huge lead, and once on the 2nd turn of lap 1 at Motegi when I was more interested in the Supra behind me than the turn in front. This is testimony much more of the car than of my driving. The closest race was the Motegi Speedway – the win coming more by luck than judgement – six cars with the pedal-to-the-metal – going from 1st to 5th in the blink of an eye and vice versa – and just being in the right place at the right time to get the tow at the finish line. The easiest race, embarrassingly so, was Laguna Seca where the win was by nearly 14s.

At the risk of boring you the following provides detailed results showing MOV and fastest laps…

Race 1: Tokyo R246 - 5 laps

1. Amemiya Asparadrink RX-7 ’04: winner / 1’39.383
2. Honda Takata Dome NSX ’03: +3.364s / 1’38.442
3. Toyota Castrol Tom’s Supra ’00: +3.468s / 1’38.537
4. Nissan Xanavi Hiroto GT-R ’01: +4.020s / 1’38.532
5. Nissan Penzoil Nismo GT-R ’99: +5.942s / 1’38.923
6. Honda Arta NSX ’00: +10.528s / 1’39.783

Race 2: Suzuka East - 12 laps

1. Amemiya Asparadrink RX-7 ’04: winner / 0’49.099
2. Honda Arta NSX ’00: +15.325s / 0’50.189
3. Toyota Castrol Tom’s Supra ’00: +17.201s / 0’50.317
4. Nissan Xanavi Hiroto GT-R ’01: +18.140s / 0’50.060
5. Honda Takata Dome NSX ’03: +20.174s / 0’50.123
6. Nissan Penzoil Nismo GT-R ’99: +23.077s / 0’50.438

Race 3: Seoul - 10 laps

1. Amemiya Asparadrink RX-7 ’04: winner / 0’58.321
2. Nissan Xanavi Hiroto GT-R ’01: +2.653s / 0’58.254
3. Toyota Castrol Tom’s Supra ’00: +5.568s / 0’58.568
4. Nissan Penzoil Nismo GT-R ’99: +9.729s / 0’58.434
5. Honda Takata Dome NSX ’03: +13.058s / 0’58.568
6. Honda Arta NSX ’00: +17.790s / 0’58.839

Race 4: Fuji Speedway 90’s - 6 laps

1. Amemiya Asparadrink RX-7 ’04: winner / 1’30.107
2. Nissan Xanavi Hiroto GT-R ’01: +3.504s / 1’29.867
3. Toyota Castrol Tom’s Supra ’00: +6.869s / 1’30.730
4. Honda Takata Dome NSX ’03: +9.838s / 1’30.706
5. Nissan Penzoil Nismo GT-R ’99: +10.135s / 1’30.515
6. Honda Arta NSX ’00: +16.247s / 1’31.889

Race 5: Motegi Speedway - 12 laps

1. Amemiya Asparadrink RX-7 ’04: winner / 0’36.075
2. Toyota Castrol Tom’s Supra ’00: +0.034s / 0’35.696
3. Honda Takata Dome NSX ’03: +0.134s / 0’36.416
4. Nissan Penzoil Nismo GT-R ’99: +0.464s / 0’36.286
5. Nissan Xanavi Hiroto GT-R ’01: +0.648s / 0’36.322
6. Honda Arta NSX ’00: +13.060s / 0’37.352

Race 6: Laguna Seca - 7 laps

1. Amemiya Asparadrink RX-7 ’04: winner / 1’26.103
2. Toyota Castrol Tom’s Supra ’00: +13.850s / 1’27.921
3. Nissan Penzoil Nismo GT-R ’99: +20.407s / 1’28.267
4. Nissan Xanavi Hiroto GT-R ’01: +22.601s / 1’28.890
5. Honda Takata Dome NSX ’03: +25.660s / 1’28.856
6. Honda Arta NSX ’00: +30.802s / 1’29.067

Race 7: Hong Kong - 9 laps

1. Amemiya Asparadrink RX-7 ’04: winner / 1’21.546
2. Toyota Castrol Tom’s Supra ’00: +5.856s / 1’21.762
3. Nissan Xanavi Hiroto GT-R ’01: +8.242s / 1’22.086
4. Nissan Penzoil Nismo GT-R ’99: +13.559s / 1’22.543
5. Honda Takata Dome NSX ’03: +18.860s / 1’22.443
6. Honda Arta NSX ’00: +24.235s / 1’23.015

Race 8: Motegi Road - 6 laps

1. Amemiya Asparadrink RX-7 ’04: winner / 1’53.399
2. Nissan Penzoil Nismo GT-R ’99: +2.117s / 1’53.479
3. Nissan Xanavi Hiroto GT-R ’01: +2.751s / 1’53.557
4. Toyota Castrol Tom’s Supra ’00: +5.892s / 1’53.773
5. Honda Takata Dome NSX ’03: +10.601s / 1’53.865
6. Honda Arta NSX ’00: +16.750s / 1’54.388

Race 9: Fuji 2005 GT - 6 laps

1. Amemiya Asparadrink RX-7 ’04: winner / 1’38.235
2. Toyota Castrol Tom’s Supra ’00: +4.342s / 1’38.281
3. Nissan Penzoil Nismo GT-R ’99: +8.728s / 1’38.531
4. Honda Takata Dome NSX ’03: +13.651s / 1’38.351
5. Nissan Xanavi Hiroto GT-R ’01: +16.951s / 1’38.760
6. Honda Arta NSX ’00: +21.899s / 1’39.530

Race 10: Suzuka - 5 laps

1. Amemiya Asparadrink RX-7 ’04: winner / 2’04.213
2. Toyota Castrol Tom’s Supra ’00: +5.554s / 2’04.440
3. Nissan Xanavi Hiroto GT-R ’01: +6.743s / 2’03.749
4. Nissan Penzoil Nismo GT-R ’99: +8.182s / 2’04.890
5. Honda Takata Dome NSX ’03: +14.748s / 2’04.858
6. Honda Arta NSX ’00: +16.088s / 2’05.348

With 250k credits for the series of races and a JGTC to sell, I have a little spending power again, approaching the 1m mark. This was fun, fun, fun . I suspect that the other small JGTC’s (ASL Arta Garaiya, Arta MR-2 etc.) could perform equally as well. The key, as I said before, was the R4 tires.

At session’s end my points total is now 71,600 and my tally of 200 point races is 150. I’ll update the resource table before I leave. For now…

Adios Amigos

[This message has been edited by miko (edited 07-25-2005).]

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