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Santiago22
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posted 09-24-2003 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Santiago22     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I've been screwing around with MK's GT3 Garage Editor and I've made a updated version of the GT3gE304.ini, which contains the comments for the 304 Editing section of MKGE (where it shows the Game Status: days, cash on hand, races won, etc.).

I was wondering if anyone would be interested in a copy of the file. I'll put it on my webspace if anyone wants it. (My host is down right now though.)

MK's Garage Editor (v38) is here: GT3gEditV38.zip

Updated 304 Editing info (remove .txt extension when installing): GT3gE304.ini.txt


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posted 09-24-2003 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moppie   Click Here to Email Moppie     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Eh?

It sounds interesting, but what does it do?

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Santiago22
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posted 09-25-2003 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Santiago22     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
If you go into the 304 Editor (Game Status area) of MK's program v38, there's quite a few lines that are marked with a ?, e.g., MK didn't know what the line meant.

I changed the lines once I confirmed what they were, and made some editing changes to make the data easier to understand. Nothing major, just to make that area simpler to use.

It's by no means a final version, I'm still poking around at it...

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mobilechicane
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posted 09-25-2003 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mobilechicane   Click Here to Email mobilechicane     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
yes please

i'll be your 'beta-tester' or some such pc-geek speek

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GT3mich
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posted 09-25-2003 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GT3mich   Click Here to Email GT3mich     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I'm interested too!

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posted 09-25-2003 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GT3mich   Click Here to Email GT3mich     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Shouldn't you find a geek job instead of your current profession? It would pay more.

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Santiago22
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posted 09-26-2003 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Santiago22     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GT3mich:
Shouldn't you find a geek job instead of your current profession? It would pay more.

It would pay a lot more, but tech jobs aren't really stable right now, whereas I can stay at my current job for as long as I want. Great thing about fast food places is they almost never go out of business


File's up on my webspace:
http://www.santiago22.com/gt3/GT3gE304.ini.txt

Save to the folder where GT3gEdit.exe is. Take the .txt off when you save it and replace the GT3gE304.ini file that's there. Rename the original file if you think you might want to switch back.

Thanks, guys!

Now, anybody in a team other than Button's Brigade want one too? *lol*

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player2
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posted 03-22-2004 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for player2   Click Here to Email player2     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote

OK, I found only three threads here with "MK" in the title, and this seemed the closest to a useful MK's Garage Editor discussion.

The great W. Gate (no, not Miscro$oft - Button's Brigade!) has determined that the required adjustment to convert a bought car to a prize car (ie. eliminate run-in) is:

480=-1149628589

Simply transfer garage to PC via X/Shark-port, read garage, export the car as .ini file, edit line '480' of .ini file, import .ini file, write garage, and restore garage via port.

Just wanted to make a permanent record of this insight.

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Santiago22
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posted 03-22-2004 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Santiago22     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Thanks WasteGate & P2

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posted 03-23-2004 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WasteGate   Click Here to Email WasteGate     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by player2:
The great W. Gate (no, not Miscro$oft - Button's Brigade!) has determined that the required adjustment to convert a bought car to a prize car (ie. eliminate run-in) is:

480=-1149628589


Technically changing this line does not convert a bought car to a prize car. What it does it to put 301km of engine wear onto the car. This will see a bought car right through the running-in period into it's max bhp zone. If applied to a proper prize car it will eat up 301km of your 500km optimum life. So be careful.

Anyway, it's an easier and quicker way of obtaining a run-in car for those Spot Races.

W. Gate !!! Nice one P2. LOL.

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posted 03-23-2004 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WasteGate   Click Here to Email WasteGate     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I think I can help you out with another line on the GT3gE304.ini

36=Total Number Of Cars Ever Owned

OK, so it's not at all useful, but you can't have everything.

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posted 03-23-2004 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eggmann     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
"Stolen" from Heydu of GTP:

[GT3CarData]
Region= EU (Region= EU for PAL-Game) (Region= US for NTSC- Game)
BaseFile= File-Name
BaseName= Wagen-Name
0= Car Base Part 1
4= Car Base Part 2
8= Color Part 1
12= Color Part 2
16= Zulassung / Wagen-Art Part 1 ( 2=Race 1=Road )
20= -Zulassung / Wagen-Art Part 2
24= Brakes Part 1
28= Brakes Part 2
32= Brake Controllor Part 1
36= Brake Controllor Part 2
40= Chassis Part 1
44= Chassis Part 2
48= Engine Part 1
52= Engine Part 2
56= Drivetrain & VCD Part 1
60= Drivetrain & VCD Part 1
64= Transmission Part 1
68= Transmission Part 2
72= Suspension Part 1
76= Suspension Part 2
80= LSD Part 1
84= LSD Part 1
88= Front Tyres Part 1
92= Front Tyres Part 2
96= Rear Tyres Part 1
100= Raer Tyres Part 2
104= 17 ?? Part 1
108= 17 ?? Part 2
112= Weight Reduction Part 1
116= Weight Reduction Part 2
120= Body & DF Part 1
124= Body & DF Part 2
128= Polish Part 1
132= Polish Part 2
136= Balance Part 1
140= Balance Part 2
144= Displacement part 1
148= Displacement part 2
152= Computer Part 1
156= Computer Part
160= N\A Tune Part 1
164= N\A Tune Part 2
168= Turbo Part 1
172= Turbo Part 2
176= Flywheel Part 1
180= Flywheel Part 2
184= Clutch Part 1
188= Clutch Part 2 ...Remember that the value in the ini is 1 greater
192= Shaft Part 1 ....than the value in the game, so for instance to
196= Shaft Part 2 ....set the front DF to 250, you would set line
200= Muffler Part 1 ..292=-251. In cases where there is a decimal point
204= Muffler Part 2 ..such as gear ratios and spring rate, don't use
208= Intercooler Part 1 ...them in the ini, so a gear ratio of 1.635
212= Intercooler Part 2 ...would be entered as -1636
216= ASM Part 1
220= ASM Part 2
224= TCS Part 1
228= TCS Part 2
232= Wheels Part 1
236= Wheels Part 2 ________________________________________
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240= >R Gear ..Anything from this point down can be adjusted in the ini
244= >1 Gear ..but generally you would only change settings that you
248= >2 Gear ..can't change in the game, unless you wish to set things
252= >3 Gear ..outside the bounds of the game settings.
256= >4 Gear
260= >5 Gear ..For instance, you may wish to set the gear ratios here
264= >6 Gear ..if your using the car in a "normal car race" and so can
268= >7 Gear ..not buy an adjustable tranny. The same would apply for
272= >Final Drive ..suspension settings.
276= >Auto Gear
280= >VCD
284= Front Brake Adjust..These could be adjusted to a very high value
288= Rear Brake Adjust..like 100, which may help at high speed.

292= Front DF..DF settings really depend on the amount of HP and how
296= Rear DF...how an individual likes the car to handle. Generally
...............between -110 and -210 for moderate HP, and you might
...............try 0 or -251 for high HP or tighter handling.
300= Turbo 1
304= Turbo 2 ..As I understand it, Turbo 1-6 will adjust the percentage
308= Turbo 3 ..of turbo boost you will get in each gear. Not having
312= Turbo 4 ..messed with it myself, i can't comment any more than
316= Turbo 5 ..that.
320= Turbo 6
324= Front Camber
328= Rear Camger
332= Front Ride Height..The minimum setting here is -1(0 ride height)
336= Rear Ride Height ..The max is -251 (a monster rally car)
340= Front Toe
344= Rear Toe
348= Front Springs..A high setting here will obviously stiffen the ride
352= Rear Springs ..and can improve handling on the tarmac. A low
....................setting often works well on rally cars. I will
....................often use -2 on my rally cars, which is equal to
.................___.1lbs of spring rate, and combine it with high
.....................ride height.
356= Front Grip ( If the value to high, the screen begins to woble )
360= Rear Grip ( If the value to high, the screen begins to woble )
364= Front Bound
368= Front Bound
372= Front Rebound ..For bound and rebound, I often use below game
376= Front Rebound ..settings for my rally cars
380= Rear Bound
384= Rear Bound
388= Rear Rebound
392= Rear Rebound
396= Front Stabilizer
400= Rear Stabilizer
404= Front LSD Init
408= Rear LSD Init
412= Front LSD Accel
416= Rear LSD Accel
420= Front LSD Decel
424= Rear LSD Decel
428= Final Drive
432= TCS
436= ???
440= horse power modifier ( a Value from -1001 =HPx1 )
( A Value from -2001 = HPx2 ) ( A Value from -501 = HPx0.5 )
444= ASM
448= Driver A/MT
452= Driver ASM
456= Driver TCS
460= ???
464= Fittment 1
468= Fittment 2..Eliminating fittment values will allow any car to
472= Fittment 3..rally
476= Travel Meter ...a value of -1 sets milage to zero
480= Oil 1 ..a value of -1 means the engine is broken in
484= Oil 2 ..a value of 929924095 means oil is changed
488= shine of car ..a value of 0 or -0 is "super shine"
492= ???
496= ???
500= ???
504= ???

The original thread is here: http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?postid=489653#post489653

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WasteGate
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posted 03-23-2004 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WasteGate   Click Here to Email WasteGate     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eggmann:
480= Oil 1 ..a value of -1 means the engine is broken in
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-1 seems to work as well, and is quite a lot easier to remember. I did think -1 reset the engine wear to 'as new' but, quite obviously, I was wrong.

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posted 03-23-2004 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eggmann     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
468= Fittment 2..Eliminating fittment values will allow any car to
472= Fittment 3..rally

Hmm... F1's in rally, that sounds interesting.

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Santiago22
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posted 03-23-2004 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Santiago22     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WasteGate:
I think I can help you out with another line on the GT3gE304.ini

36=Total Number Of Cars Ever Owned

OK, so it's not at all useful, but you can't have everything.


I think you're dead on for this one... I'll update the file in the near future.

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reddog78
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posted 03-24-2004 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for reddog78   Click Here to Email reddog78     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Ryan, someone (in fact) DID make an F1 car run in the dirt. I downloaded it from the GTH forum about a year or so ago and couldn't believe my eyes.....but, there it was: an F1 car running on a Rally track.

I've got the ini file if you want me to send it to you.

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NoQuarter has I believe some top times in the RacingLine hybrids database with the F1 Rally Car.

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posted 03-31-2004 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Psyfalcon   Click Here to Email Psyfalcon     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Err... is there someway to clear off the arcade races on a fresh gamesave?

I built my hybrid on another memory card and dont want to go and whave to send hte car off to my good card.

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posted 04-01-2004 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for player2   Click Here to Email player2     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote

I believe VB did this yesterday. (VB?)

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posted 04-01-2004 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WasteGate   Click Here to Email WasteGate     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Psyfalcon:
Err... is there someway to clear off the arcade races on a fresh gamesave?

Yes you can. Load your game into MKs, then click on the Edit menu and select 304 Editing. Now change the following lines:
60=6
64=1
68=1
72=1
76=1
80=1
84=1

And don't forget to write the garage back again. That should do the trick.

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posted 04-01-2004 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Psyfalcon   Click Here to Email Psyfalcon     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Now of course, I dont have an edit menu. What version is everyone running? And where to find it.

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posted 04-01-2004 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WasteGate   Click Here to Email WasteGate     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I'm using v38 available here: http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/t-28735.html

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posted 04-01-2004 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Psyfalcon   Click Here to Email Psyfalcon     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
v20 is a bit out dated

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posted 04-01-2004 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Santiago22     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Psyfalcon:
v20 is a bit out dated

OWNED!


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Santiago22
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posted 04-01-2004 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Santiago22     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WasteGate:
Yes you can. Load your game into MKs, then click on the Edit menu and select 304 Editing. Now change the following lines:
60=6
64=1
68=1
72=1
76=1
80=1
84=1

And don't forget to write the garage back again. That should do the trick.


Does that set them all unlocked?

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posted 04-01-2004 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Psyfalcon   Click Here to Email Psyfalcon     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Yes it does

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posted 04-02-2004 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for reddog78   Click Here to Email reddog78     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I tried that.....it didn't work at all.

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posted 04-02-2004 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for reddog78   Click Here to Email reddog78     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Just discovered something on the subject of setting the lines to 6 and 1 on down.....to get the cars (in addition to the tracks), you need to set the yes/no something? lines to 1 in order to collect all the cars in Arcade Mode....otherwise, you will only get the tracks....and not the cars that are unlockable as a result.

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posted 04-05-2004 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VB   Click Here to Email VB     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Just love this thread!

Shame it didn't come about a while back. Nothing before it's time!

Think that question directed to me by p2 has been answered!

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posted 04-10-2004 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for reddog78   Click Here to Email reddog78     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Indeed it has.

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posted 05-05-2004 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NumbOne   Click Here to Email NumbOne     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I have recently gotten a copy of MK’s program. It is a lovely utility and I like it very much. It is reasonably easy to use but it doesn’t quite make it to being user-friendly. As an example I don’t understand how “304 Editing” is in anyway evocative of editing the game accomplishments section of the save-file.

I still haven’t figured out what 102’s (or possibly it’s 408) are. In the help file under “Other stuff” it discuses some of the options that can be set in the [Globals] section of the GT3gEdit.ini file. One of the options is “Force102” and I have copied and pasted what it had to say about that below.

“Force102
Putting 1(one) to its value will force every exported car getting their 102's value (408 in car file) from GT3gEdit.ini [Globals] 102 despite what the actual car data is.”

This statement is ambiguous, not a good thing in a help file. It would seem most likely that it is discussing a cars 102 value, whatever that might be, and that it would be listed in line number 408 in the exported car file. It has left open the interpretation that it is discussing the value of something listed on line number 102 of something that might have a value of 408. Upon examination the second, less likely, possible interpretation has to be removed to an even lower level of likelihood because 102 isn’t devisable by 4 and the lines in a exported car file increment by 4 so there is no line number 102. I can’t rule it out entirely because the first, and now much more likely, interpretation doesn’t make a great deal more sense. There is a line number 408 but it is referenced as referring to the “Rear LSD Init” setting and seems to do so. I can’t figure out why an LSD setting would be referred to by the cryptic term “102” but then again I don’t get “304 Editing” either. If the statement weren’t ambiguous I would at least be more certain of what it was that I didn’t understand.


The Fittment registry is described as a set of yes/no flags of parts the car has. I believe that a binary number as a series of yes/no flags would be read as a 1 (one) in any slot in the series indicting yes, in this case possession of that part, for that slot. It would seem that the Fittment registry is a series of yes/no flags indicating what parts that the car hasn’t. That is, where a 0 (zero) appears indicates possession of that part and where a 1 (one) appears indicates not possessing that part. Understanding this, the statement “Eliminating fittment values will allow any car to rally.” starts to make sense. I may seem a dim-bunny but it took me over an hour to figure this out.

The word Fittment isn’t a good choice for what to call this registry. First off, I don’t think “Fittment” is actually a word, but “fitment” is. Fitment means fittings or equipment, but it isn’t a word in common use today. The term “Junk in the Trunk” is descriptive but it’s to long. Perhaps “Trunk Junk” for the US and “Bonnet Bric-a-brac” for EU would work.

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posted 05-05-2004 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moppie   Click Here to Email Moppie     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
LOL!

That was beutiful Numbeone.

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An hour to work it out. Must have been two to write this down. In my opinion... the two were priceless! Thank you.

For the record, I'm confused too and I've played with it a few times already.

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I have gotten somewhere with that 102 thing. There is line that is named 102 when you are examining a car in your saved-garage using this utility. I believe that this line is saved to line number 508 in an exported-car file. I still have no idea what the information in 102 represents or is used for. I don’t have a clue why you might want it to get it’s values from the [Globals] or when you might want it not to do that.

Having spent more time on this than pride will permit me to admit, I am going to declare a victory. I now think that I have a good idea of what it is that I don’t understand.

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Having an understanding of your lack of understanding is the greatest understanding a person can have. Understanding your own lack of understanding is the only true path to a complete understanding of what is you wish to understand.

However, according to your quote:

quote:
Originally posted by NumbOne:
I now think that I have a good idea of what it is that I don’t understand.

You already know what you don't understand, and with out getting into arugments about semantics and metaphysical theories of knowledge, having knowledge implies an understanding. So your above statement is Im afraid a contridiction, and therefore false.
What I believe you ment to say, is

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I now think that I have a good idea of my own lack of understanding.

Which would imply knowledge of your own inablity to understand, and point you in the right direction to finding the understanding you seek.

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I’m not at all sure that I understood that.

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OK...Xport arrived and working

But....I tried editing the cash using MK's editor, but the amount of money doesnt change! I can import cars ok though

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open the editor
load a garage
edit / 304 editing

click the box to the left of "Money on Hand"
click again to get an editbox in the same place
change the number
click another box
close the 304 editor window
write the garage to the hard drive some where.

hth

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DOH! Thanks Santiago22.

I thought thats what I had done, but...sigh

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