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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 2549 |
posted 06-24-2003 08:52 AM
   
A thread for any vaguely interesting factoids you've noticed in GT3. (A factoid is an little known and unimportant fact, such as might be found in 'Trivial Pursuit')
191 of the 202 prizes can be won without having bought any car. All solo events have one prize car. The maximum completion which can be attained without buying any car is 97.7% The maximum completion which can be attained buying only a Mercedes is 98.8% The game completion meter stops at 99.0%, and does not increment through the last five wins (@ approx. 0.2% per win) until the game is completed and the final 1.0% is added all in one go. The least money you can spend at the Car Dealer to attain 100% game completion is 55,310 cr for a Merc SLK 230 plus 80,780 for a TVR Tuscan, making 136,090 cr. Edit: one discrete prize Polyphony001 in polyphony Championship was missing in version 1 of the prize list. So discrete prizes goes up by one, duplicate prizes goes down by one. [This message has been edited by player2 (edited 06-26-2003).] IP: Logged |
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1948 |
posted 06-24-2003 09:35 PM
A mildly-tuned Spoon Civic Type R can be just as fast, and depending on driver skill, even faster than an NSX Type R around Tokyo Route 246. The Ruf RGT is the only car in GT3 running on an RR drivetrain (rear engine, rear drive). Paradoxically, in the NTSC version of GT3, License Test S-8 is easier to gold than half of the B License tests. The Chevrolet Camaro LM Race Car wears out its oil in approximately 130 miles, rather than the standard 175. * theory!! * : The Nismo Skyline GT-R S-tune (R32) actually loses horsepower after several hundred miles, that power never to be regained. * not confirmed yet! * * confirmed! * ------------------ Button's Brigade IP: Logged |
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1948 |
posted 06-24-2003 10:05 PM
More facts: There are 11 unique cars you can buy in GT3 without running a single race (arcade or simulation): Daihatsu Mira TR-XX Avanzato R - Cr. 11,140 cheapest
In the same manner, the Polyphony 001 (PAL Only), the F094/S (NTSC Only), and the F094/H (NTSC Only) are the same car, but the F094/H sells for Cr. 250,000, instead of the Cr. 875,000 of the Polyphony 001 and the F094/S.
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1948 |
posted 07-03-2003 03:05 AM
*recently discovered* In the NTSC version of GT3 (this may be true for the PAL versions too, someone check this please), the Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca has a racing muffler you can buy for 0 credits. However, it has absolutely no effect on the horsepower or torque output of the car. n1 PD  ------------------ Button's Brigade IP: Logged |
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Psyfalcon 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1792 |
posted 07-03-2003 03:51 AM
ALL cars, after several hundred miles, will loose HP, never to be found again. Our little Miata friend will EXCEED 200 mph when fully tuned. It will out run almost anything if you can get it to drive straight IP: Logged |
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1948 |
posted 07-03-2003 05:09 AM
quote: I had a feeling this was the case, but I've never had my Miata over around 195, which was plenty to beat the competition in the race I was on. IP: Logged |
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Der Alta 1st Lieutenant Posts: 191 |
posted 07-03-2003 07:51 AM
Grand Valley Raceway is the only track in the game with a road map sign on the track itself. Oddly enough, it changes places depending if you're driving forward or reverse versions of the track. There are Two winnable cars that can't be sold (NTSC version only?). One is a Honda S2000, and my brain has leaked the knowledge of the other. (can anyone lend me a hand here?) AO IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 2549 |
posted 07-03-2003 08:49 AM
Good factoids, chaps! I seem to remember the other one might have been the Oreca Viper, DA/AO. IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 2549 |
posted 08-28-2003 01:05 PM
When running the Arcade Single races, each race you complete on each difficulty level scores you the usual (approx)0.2% in sim mode game completion percent, same as a normal race in Sim mode. If you run Normal without running Easy, or you run Hard without running the corresponding Easy or Normal of the same race, you get credited with wins for each of the easier races, and you get the coloured lights in Arcade / Bonus Items screen plus the additional game completion % in Sim Mode status screen. But... If you go straight to 'Professional' level (by holding L1 + R1 at the difficulty select screen), your win gets you ... Or else I was too sleepy or inebriated to register what really happened... IP: Logged |
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1948 |
posted 08-28-2003 03:13 PM
quote: The F094/S (NTSC Only) also does this.
quote: Has anyone completed Arcade Mode by winning all the events in Professional Level, rather than playing it Easy, Normal, or Hard? Hmmm... I think I may have just found a new task... IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 2549 |
posted 08-28-2003 03:17 PM
Er, Santiago, was that a response to the last line of my last post? Spit it out and let me take it on the chin - are you saying that you do get the credits if you run 'Professional' rather than 'Hard'? IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 2549 |
posted 08-28-2003 03:18 PM
Erm, should I be rephrasing that last comment????  IP: Logged |
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1948 |
posted 08-28-2003 05:05 PM
I was saying I wonder if you get additional prizes for running Arcade Mode under Pro rather than Easy/Normal/Hard... Like the Arcade prize cars you get when you complete in on different levels (787B, R390, etc.) I'm wondering if you do it on Pro, if you get, say, a Polyphony001 to use in Arcade mode... or if maybe you get like a 787B garage car if you do it on Pro... [This message has been edited by Santiago22 (edited 08-29-2003).] IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 2549 |
posted 09-01-2003 12:25 PM
Santiago, I just ran another 'Pro' mode on a track which I hadn't run in Easy/Normal/Hard. I confirm what I reported before - the game doesn't appear to record that completion in terms of lights in the Bonus Items screen (== unlocking Arcade tracks) or game completion percentage in teh Sim Mode Status; however, it does add one to the 'Trophies' line in the Status screen. But I'm guessing that if there were any prize available for running all 'Pro' Arcades/Singles, then (a) you wouldn't be able to get 100% without it, and (b) there would be some way of seeing which 'Pro' runs you had completed or not; so I guess I'm saying I pretty sure there won't be any prize for completing all 'Pro' runs. IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 2549 |
posted 09-01-2003 12:33 PM
RX-8 has left hand drive! IP: Logged |
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NSZero 1st Lieutenant Posts: 243 |
posted 09-01-2003 09:02 PM
Speaking of left-hand drive...shouldn't the Lexus IS be that way as well? It's right-handed on the game. IP: Logged |
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NSZero 1st Lieutenant Posts: 243 |
posted 09-01-2003 09:43 PM
Here's something confirmed that I found on accident. The F1 cars can be "traded" back and forth between garages for free. There are also a few other prize cars that are like that. Someone with the time might go through and see which ones can be traded for free...who knows, it may be all of them. IP: Logged |
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1948 |
posted 09-02-2003 04:50 AM
quote: I don't get that car... It's a 2-litre 6-cylinder (WTF?) Now, I was under the impression that Lexus only existed/was sold/was marketed in the U.S... therefore it should be a USDM (left-hand drive)... but it's not... and furthermore, the 2-litre engine would make it an IS200, but (for the non-Americans) we don't have an IS200 - the IS here has a 3-litre Inline-6 and is called the IS300 (duh). maybe it's one of those cars that doesn't really exist (Impreza LM car, Sprinter SS version)... [This message has been edited by Santiago22 (edited 09-02-2003).] IP: Logged |
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MR_speeder Crew Member Posts: 69 |
posted 09-02-2003 06:29 AM
the SS Trueno exists, its just that the game version doesnt completely replicate it like the real thing AFAIK, the IS300 is a inline 6 banger, not a V-form. that engine is the same one found in the GS300 and the Mk4 N/A Supra...thats the thing different for the U.S. market, the RHD/LHD and engine thing must be an error i guess IP: Logged |
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1948 |
posted 09-02-2003 06:34 PM
quote: Where would one verify this information? I've done internet searches on it, but all the information was for GT... nothing real-world related.
quote: Drrr... I knew that... I don't know why I said V6 - I know it's inline-6... *edits previous post* IP: Logged |
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MR_speeder Crew Member Posts: 69 |
posted 09-03-2003 12:55 AM
if you know about the initial D comics, then the SS trueno is based off on the AE86 driven by the main character. the comic version of the car had its engine swapped with a high revving 4AG engine, which is found in the AE111....or was it the AE101 race cars...I forget which...and added a CF hood later on in the series Shuichi Shigeno is the creator of the series, so he had an AE86 done over with the Initial D treatment, with the new engine, and black watanabe rims. So the special RL model is pretty much named after him...the only thing missing from the SS trueno in GT3 is the tofu sticker on the right door panel and the fog lights The thing is...its not hard to make a AE86 look like the one from Initial D, the high revving engine is the hard part The SS model closest to the one found in GT3: yes, i know it doesnt do much if you take my word for it since theres no exact specs on the RL Shigeno 86 car but its a really famous car/icon in Japan...so I'd figure there really is a original comic model like that in RL. i wouldnt be surprised if there are others who try to mimic the appearance though...the engine on the other hand is the main attraction. [This message has been edited by MR_speeder (edited 09-03-2003).] IP: Logged |
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mobilechicane 1st Lieutenant Posts: 398 |
posted 09-03-2003 03:43 AM
hmm, this is getting into trivial aspects of the trivia.. > the trueno/sprinter/levin (whatever!) was built with a 4AGE in Jap-spec cars.. just not one that redlined at 10,000!! (only 7500 > GVS actually has two road map signs of itself in each direction. They both change place when you race GVSII. > The IS thing.. i went & checked 'cos i was confused also: *The Lexus IS200, as sold in (at least) USA, UK, Aus, has a 2L straight six (157hp). * Japan also gets the Toyota Altezza RS 200, with a 2L L4 & 200hp. * The IS300 is 'a doozy' WELL.. aren't i just a smartypants today? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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MR_speeder Crew Member Posts: 69 |
posted 09-03-2003 05:41 AM
i think i need to clarify a bit on the engine based off the AE101 from what i understand, the AE86 Trueno in the manga come in w/ the original 16V 4AG. But later on was swapped out for a RACING engine based off the AE101 model. So its already a heavily tuned 4AG swapped in...hitting up to 11k RPM redline limit. It's the 20V version, like mobilechicane pointed out. Yes the racing engine exists in R/L, but theres several versions of it and very rare even in Japan. some versions include the Formula Atlantic 16v 4AG and the TRD A Class 20V 4AG (the one I talked about mostly, and also the most streetable version) but i dont want to get into that. The SS Trueno engine in GT3 is similar to what existed in the manga. IP: Logged |
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1948 |
posted 09-03-2003 06:40 AM
quote: In the US, the IS300 debuted for 2001my (model year), with a 3-litre I6 rated at 215hp, with a 5-speed automatic. Model year 2002 kept the engine, but the choice of a 5-speed manual transmission was added. The IS300 SportCross (the wagon version) came for 2002 model year with the same powertrain as the 2001 IS300 sedan - 3-litre, 215hp I6 with 5-speed automatic. The 2003 IS sedan continues with 215hp I6 and 5AT or 5MT transmissions, and the SportCross carries on with the 215hp I6 and the 5AT only. [This message has been edited by Santiago22 (edited 09-03-2003).] IP: Logged |
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Der Alta 1st Lieutenant Posts: 191 |
posted 09-07-2003 09:42 AM
Little known factoid. When viewing FUll race replays, the view will default to "In car view" when pitting. AO IP: Logged |
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brianw13 1st Lieutenant Posts: 167 |
posted 09-17-2003 12:55 PM
a little known factiod #2  The Complex String has pits.... (I just noticed for the first time in probably 300 laps ran) IP: Logged |
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eggmann 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1543 |
posted 09-26-2003 03:10 PM
...#3- If you're driving manual tranny, and you hit the handbrake, it automatically downshifts your car. IP: Logged |
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Civic_VTi Crew Member Posts: 19 |
posted 09-29-2003 10:29 AM
Cars with unchangeable rims: all F1 cars, Nissan Z Concept, Mazda RX-8. Any others? Handbrake shifts to neutral when you use auto, and R2 prevents gearchanges. IP: Logged |
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1948 |
posted 09-29-2003 07:38 PM
quote: L2 does the same. IP: Logged |
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Tony Randall 1st Lieutenant Posts: 348 |
posted 10-02-2003 02:38 AM
Grand Valley has only Four cones on the entire course, Two at each end of the pit lane. Tokyo R246 is an actual street circut not a fictional track (as many know I suspect)but what the hell [This message has been edited by Tony Randall (edited 10-02-2003).] IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 2549 |
posted 10-02-2003 03:55 AM
There are both a video clip and a set of stills available of a lap of the real R246 - but does anyone have video or stills of Seattle track? IP: Logged |
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Tony Randall 1st Lieutenant Posts: 348 |
posted 10-02-2003 05:25 AM
quote: P2, bit off topic I know so sorry, but a driver called Jeff from racing line recently took some snaps of seattle while doing Torc and shared them with us. Seattle Snaps [This message has been edited by Tony Randall (edited 10-02-2003).] IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 2549 |
posted 10-02-2003 07:03 AM
Thanks Tony! (Anyway, I don't see how any info related to GT3 can be OT here? )IP: Logged |
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1948 |
posted 10-02-2003 01:17 PM
Cool, Tony! I knew that Seattle Circuit was modeled on actual city streets, but I've never been able to find proof of that. IP: Logged |
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allgranturismo Crew Member Posts: 2 |
posted 10-02-2003 01:45 PM
Thank you for this great information!  IP: Logged |
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 1948 |
posted 10-02-2003 02:04 PM
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------------------ Button's Brigade - The track is ours. You may have it when we're done. :mad: - Youth and treachery will overcome old age and experience. - :) IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 2549 |
posted 10-02-2003 02:25 PM
New member on deck! Attennn - hun! Hi allgranturismo, welcome to the numbers! Hope you'll have a great time here. If you feel like it, there's a Driver Bios thread to introduce yourself properly, and a Diary zone if you want to tell us the story of your game. Alternatively, just hang around Flamers and 'general discussions' (here) and get to know us that way. There are always a number of informal races on the go at OLR, everybody welcome, all abilities catered for. Again, welcome. p2 IP: Logged |
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Sukerkin Officer of the Bridge Posts: 1437 |
posted 10-02-2003 06:48 PM
Thanks for doing the "Welcoming" P2. As I'm a mod now I always try to keep up to date and greet new members as they come through the door but any help in that regard is very much appreciated {edit: too much Southern Comfort caused me to miss a fairly important adverb which rendered the message meaningless ... well nearly ------------------ [This message has been edited by Sukerkin (edited 10-02-2003).] IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 2549 |
posted 10-02-2003 07:55 PM
Any post containing the word 'adverb' is meaningless as far as I'm concerned!  IP: Logged |
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allgranturismo Crew Member Posts: 2 |
posted 10-03-2003 03:20 PM
Thank You for the welcome IP: Logged |
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). I somehow got the impression that the S.S. had a 20V GE in it, which, like MR_speeder says, came off the later AE101 & AE111s. Still, there's a few mods in there to hit those revs methinks.
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