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Der Alta 1st Lieutenant Posts: 191 |
posted 11-09-2003 11:40 AM
  
Mopar Parts is listed as the tune shop when you enter it in a Dodge car. It's the only one that has a "Parts Supplier" identity in the game. AO IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 3797 |
posted 12-14-2003 12:32 PM
As described here, if you save and reload between rounds during a series race event, your car will increase its Distance Driven by the full distance driven in the series, but the game stats Total Mileage will only increase by the distance driven since the final reload. [This message has been edited by player2 (edited 12-14-2003).] IP: Logged |
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Ubiquitous 1st Lieutenant Posts: 134 |
posted 12-15-2003 11:37 PM
quote: Whilst I have never encountered an S2000 that can't be sold (I've never tried selling one as I tend to like them), the other car that is unsellable is the Team Oreca Dodge Viper. Much to my dismay and horror I cannot get rid of this godawful heap of junk from my garage, the first thing I did when I got this lump was try to sell it and when I was unable to I cursed Polyphony and shook my fist in their general direction! But anyway enough of my upset at not being able to sell the cursed Viper. Nice to see all these interesting factoids about GT3, the R246 photos are nice to look at and some of the stats are rather bizarre IP: Logged |
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Nightcrawler1 1st Lieutenant Posts: 3193 |
posted 12-16-2003 08:44 AM
Welcome to the Numbers Ubiquitous! (Ha, I beat you this time p2!) IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 3797 |
posted 12-16-2003 10:10 AM
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Ubiquitous 1st Lieutenant Posts: 134 |
posted 12-16-2003 11:17 AM
Thanks for the welcome  IP: Logged |
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Nightcrawler1 1st Lieutenant Posts: 3193 |
posted 12-16-2003 01:34 PM
Well the post here had was listed as his post #1, so I at least responded to his original post first. You were just greeting him after some later post.  IP: Logged |
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Ubiquitous 1st Lieutenant Posts: 134 |
posted 12-16-2003 03:27 PM
Hey you two no bickering... just form an orderly queue infront of me and empty your pockets :P IP: Logged |
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Nightcrawler1 1st Lieutenant Posts: 3193 |
posted 12-16-2003 03:31 PM
If I can't bicker with p2, Numbers won't be nearly as much fun for me anymore.  IP: Logged |
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Ubiquitous 1st Lieutenant Posts: 134 |
posted 12-16-2003 04:05 PM
Okay bicker away.. no fighting over me though.. Sukerkin is the only one for me!  IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 3797 |
posted 12-16-2003 04:05 PM
How 'bout you two have a "bicker-off" this week while I'm away, and the winner can bicker with me after Sunday? Now I think we need to start enforcing a rule that each post on this thread must include an obligatory triv fact. How about it? Here's mine: In the game credits, there is only one programmer whose name is also a recognised programming instruction in a well known programming language. [This message has been edited by player2 (edited 12-16-2003).] IP: Logged |
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Nightcrawler1 1st Lieutenant Posts: 3193 |
posted 01-04-2004 05:40 PM
Here's a trivial fact that I've long noted but never posted: In machine test, there is some problem with the ghosts from your previous runs that you chase. You will apparently beat the ghost, with it visible in your rear view mirror as you cross the finish line, but your time will actually be slower. I'm not certain it happens in the high speed test, but it happens in the 0-1000m and I think in the 0-400m also. IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 3797 |
posted 01-05-2004 08:55 AM
Hey Nightie, that's great! Looks like you can't win even when you come first; ummm ... SignFromGod-meister? IP: Logged |
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neon_duke 1st Lieutenant Posts: 215 |
posted 01-05-2004 10:47 AM
quote: It definitely happens in the 400m runs. I noticed that too while doing an OLR version of the Grassroots Motorsports $2003 Challenge. It was highly annoying. Ubiquitous, what's wrong with the Oreca Viper? It's one of my favorite cars in the game. I love to pitch it around almost any track - it's fast, friendly, sounds good, and has great tire life. What's to hate about it? IP: Logged |
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Ubiquitous 1st Lieutenant Posts: 134 |
posted 01-05-2004 12:35 PM
Well I just dislike Dodge Vipers totally... I don't like the American (I say American, maybe thats wrong but I mean no offence) mentality when it comes to making cars. They are always big heavy monsters, because they are so heavy they put an even bigger engine in them which adds to the weight and allows them to move. The handling is just awful on most of those kinda 'muscle' cars.. great in a straight line but the cornering is just totally amiss.. I don't like heavy cars, just a personal preference... The Viper is a nice car when it comes to comparing it worldwide with a lot of others, but for me it's terrible I want to know why that Viper is not sellable in GT3, it's the one car I really want to get rid of! I don't think it's particularly special so why is it not possible to sell it :/ IP: Logged |
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neon_duke 1st Lieutenant Posts: 215 |
posted 01-05-2004 02:49 PM
Have you really driven it? The Oreca Viper will outhandle the JGTC cars and thanks to the pro-Japanese bias, it's not over-engined. It's great in some of the Professional level JGTC series. I find it handles wonderfully, and wins its races in the turns, not on the straights. Not that it's a fair comaprison, but the Oreca Viper will suck the wheels off of, say, the XJ220 racecar. [This message has been edited by neon_duke (edited 01-05-2004).] IP: Logged |
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 2917 |
posted 01-05-2004 08:54 PM
quote: I totally agree with what you said (my daily driver weighs all of 2399 lbs. curb weight - around 1100kg if my memory of lb-kg conversion is accurate). Having said that, the GT3 Oreca Viper is an extremely capable car... not a favorite of mine, personally, but it's certainly no punishment to me to drive one ------------------ Button's Brigade - The track is ours. You may have it when we're done. :mad: - Youth and treachery will overcome old age and experience. - :) IP: Logged |
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Ubiquitous 1st Lieutenant Posts: 134 |
posted 01-05-2004 10:09 PM
Yeah it is a fast car and can beat JGTC cars in some cases, but I don't see how you can say a Dodge Viper can outcorner something? I'm sorry but that just sends alarm bells ringing in my ears... take a corner in an NSX and see the difference. The NSX glides through the corner with minimal effort and just generally corners 'better'. The Viper needs earlier braking and more care through a corner to guide the huge lump that it is all the way around! The NSX was just an example, plenty of other cars corner better than the Viper. The other problem I have with it and many other American cars is the ultra low rev range, I hate cars that rev low. From memory (bear with me I haven't driven a Viper for months and months) I recall the Viper redlines at 6k-7k RPM, that's just so terribly low it reminds me of standard road cars. There is nothing quite like a high revving monster of an engine, it totally adds to the car. Gah I just dislike the damn Viper IP: Logged |
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Gil Crew Member Posts: 6 |
posted 01-05-2004 11:47 PM
Yes the Viper is very American. It was Adm. Halsey that said be the "firstest with the mostest". We seem to build that into cars, as well as battleships. The Oreca Viper is miles better in GT3 than in GT2. Compared the the "scapel" of the NSX the Viper is a "Broadsword" and a big one. IP: Logged |
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 2917 |
posted 01-06-2004 12:17 AM
quote: This paragraph calls for a discussion of horsepower and torque curves. Any takers? I'm too tired right now. ------------------ Button's Brigade - The track is ours. You may have it when we're done. :mad: - Youth and treachery will overcome old age and experience. - :) IP: Logged |
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GT3mich Officer of the Bridge Posts: 6756 |
posted 01-06-2004 12:40 AM
Maybe we should put this to the test. Viper vs. you name the car. Its not that bad in its racing trim. Stock PWR ------------------ IP: Logged |
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WasteGate Officer of the Bridge Posts: 967 |
posted 01-06-2004 07:57 AM
quote: I think the thing here is that the ORECA Viper is a race car that has little relation to the road car. Once the engine is refurbished with only the standard block remaining, the car stiffen with a roll cage and lightened, and the suspension completely replaced a race car can bear little relation to the original apart from its shape. The ORECA Viper won the FIA GT championship several years running, as well as several class wins at Le Mans. It was undoubtedly a great race car. The ORECA factory is in France, so a lot of the know-how and parts on the car are European. There are other cases of road cars that were at best ordinary being made into top racing cars. Didn't the Hillman Avenger win the BTCC back in the seventies? IP: Logged |
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Ubiquitous 1st Lieutenant Posts: 134 |
posted 01-06-2004 10:16 AM
I took a bit of time out to try the Oreca Viper last night, I was doing the S-6 License test I think it is. It does feel very smooth and an actual nice drive, but it feels nothing like the normal Viper. I'm fairly confident if you took a stock Viper and tuned it to a roughly same power:weight as a stock NSX/Skyline/RX-7 etc. you wouldn't win with it. :P Providing the track has some decent corners IP: Logged |
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neon_duke 1st Lieutenant Posts: 215 |
posted 01-06-2004 10:40 AM
Now, to get back on topic: in the Home screen, the car pictured is a Dodge Stratus. Not only is it not particularly sporty, it's not even in the game! [This message has been edited by neon_duke (edited 01-06-2004).] [This message has been edited by neon_duke (edited 01-06-2004).] IP: Logged |
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GT3mich Officer of the Bridge Posts: 6756 |
posted 01-06-2004 10:54 AM
This discussion should have it's own thread... If this is to continue, please make a new topic. IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 3797 |
posted 01-07-2004 10:22 AM
Meanwhile, back on topic ...
Don't post questions here - I'll post a separate thread with detailed findings shortly, after I've made the school run ... [This message has been edited by player2 (edited 01-07-2004).] IP: Logged |
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 2917 |
posted 01-07-2004 03:48 PM
quote: Sorry duke, you were beaten near the end of page 2:
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neon_duke 1st Lieutenant Posts: 215 |
posted 01-07-2004 04:34 PM
quote: Heheheheh. My wife drives a Stratus... engine, anyway. It just happens to have a Neon wrapped around it! Now I have to come up with some real trivia. IP: Logged |
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Ubiquitous 1st Lieutenant Posts: 134 |
posted 01-07-2004 11:45 PM
I just noticed this today but on the endurance race selection screen in sim mode.. if you go all the way left I think it is to Grand Valley Speedway endurance... the text 'Grand Valley Speedway' is in fact 'above' where it should be and is obscured for the most part. Compared to the others in that list which have their text in the correct place you can notice this :P IP: Logged |
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SpecsGTP 1st Lieutenant Posts: 319 |
posted 02-14-2004 02:48 AM
This one is for neon_dude. Earlier you said that ORECA Viper should be compared with the XJ220, and I have to say that just the idea is totally rediculous. First, in GT3, and all of the other GT games, the XJ220 has been unbelievable slow, so slow that I think the Japs were doing whatever they wanted. Furthermore, if this were really life, your preicous Viper would get it's butt kicked. Remember for a moment that the XJ220 won it's class at Le Mans in '93. And even if you say that the winning car was disqualified, it still doesn't mean a thing. After so many back and forth games that went on post-race, Jaguar was late filing their last appeal that was going to have the win reenstated. Sorry, I just felt like venting, it has been a long night. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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SpecsGTP 1st Lieutenant Posts: 319 |
posted 02-16-2004 01:49 AM
Hey Ubquitous, I decided to check out your Grand Valley placement of words, and I can't confirm it. I checked and everything seemed perfectly fine to read, but I also have a US version, I'm not sure if there is any differences. But keep up the work, heck I still could have missed something Peace out man! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Ubiquitous 1st Lieutenant Posts: 134 |
posted 02-17-2004 06:57 PM
I have the PAL version so I guess that's why you don't have it. Could anyone else on PAL please confirm whether my above Grand Valley thing happens on theirs too?  IP: Logged |
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ClosetRacer 1st Lieutenant Posts: 11 |
posted 02-18-2004 04:21 AM
The placement of sponsors on banners, billboards, and signs changes from race to race on the same track. IP: Logged |
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MasterGT Crew Member Posts: 13 |
posted 02-18-2004 09:47 PM
How many of you passed by the windmill farm without giving it a second glance? It's relatively easy to count the ten mills in the farm during a replay, and it's only possible to hear the windmill sound effect during a relay. Use a slow car: Mini. Drive up to the tunnel, then press Start. When the replay shows your car coming towards the camera's POV, you can hear the sound effect quite clearly when the scene changes. I haven't checked this lately, but I still think the sound effect is miscued late. You don't hear it when you first get close to the machines (you should hear it then) and it seems to be audible during the later tunnel scenes (when you shouldn't hear it). But maybe I'm just hearing things! And you thought the Test Course was boring! - wink - MasterGT P.S. I was told I could restart this message in the proper Trivia thread... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Rozza Crew Member Posts: 14 |
posted 03-31-2004 05:41 AM
This may have been already said but when you go to buy a turbo theres a blow off valve pictured there but when you race nothing wtf IP: Logged |
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player2 1st Lieutenant Posts: 3797 |
posted 03-31-2004 07:48 AM
Traffic cones in GT3 are yet another example of space-age materials being spun off from NASA's Space Shuttle program for use in more mundane walks of life ... The material from which GT3 cones are made has an almost frictionless surface, has an infinite rigidity, and rebounds with 99.9% energy efficiency no matter what material it collides with. But the really odd thing about the material is it's polarized optical properties. The cones can clearly be seen when viewed directly, but when the polarized cone light hits a reflective surface, the incident and reflected light interfere with each other in exact antiphase, which (as any physics student will tell you) renders the cones entirely invisible - for example when viewed in a mirror. [This message has been edited by player2 (edited 03-31-2004).] IP: Logged |
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Rozza Crew Member Posts: 14 |
posted 04-04-2004 04:00 AM
And you thought the Test Course was boring! - wink - MasterGT there is a wind farm in test course i didn't ive only ever seen the one on super speedway IP: Logged |
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The Missing Link 1st Lieutenant Posts: 137 |
posted 04-06-2004 02:05 PM
There is in fact a real life Subaru Impreza LM. I cannot remember where I saw pictures of one, but I have seen real life pictures of an LM Race Car version of the Subaru Impreza. IP: Logged |
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Santiago22 1st Lieutenant Posts: 2917 |
posted 04-06-2004 07:21 PM
I always thought for sure all the LM cars were fake. I mean, when has Subaru ever run in Le Mans? *edited for typo* ------------------ [This message has been edited by Santiago22 (edited 04-06-2004).] IP: Logged |
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The Missing Link 1st Lieutenant Posts: 137 |
posted 04-06-2004 08:36 PM
That doesn't mean that there aren't LM cars in existence... the don't HAVE to run at Le Mans to be modeled 'LM.' Any enduro or similarly sanctionned event woud suffice. IP: Logged |
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