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WasteGate
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posted 08-30-2004 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WasteGate   Click Here to Email WasteGate     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Official Spot Race rules summary:
Race is open to all comers.
Event as prescribed by the steward.
Entrant must submit his/her time for the prescribed event, before the published closing date and time unless otherwise specified the time given is board time if no time is specified then the closing time is one second before midnight of the date given.
Steward will publish:
- the race event to be run
- restrictions on car type (if any)
- restrictions on driving style (if any)
- restrictions on practice (if any)
- contact details for submissions (email or post to thread).
- Closing date
Steward will adjudicate any dispute.
Steward will post the result.
Stewardship of the next race will pass to the last placed non-disqualified finisher other than the steward him/herself.

Anyone who has raced F1 or sportcars around the Cote d'Adur track will know how narrow it is. Sadly there is no way to make the track wider because of the ridiculous price of real estate at Monaco.

The solution is simple. We'll race narrow cars around the track!

Below is the list of eligable cars and their upgrades. All power ratings are for fully run-in cars.

Diahatsu Cuore TR-XX Avanzato R. A short car with a long name
Lightweight 3, all engine mods, Sports tires and a racing flywheel.
182bhp 623kg 1395mm wide

Mini Cooper 1.3i mini by name and by nature
Lightweight 3, all engine mods and Sports tires.
178bhp 640kg 1410mm

Suzuki Sports Alto Works Suzuki Sports Limited. Another short car with a long name.
Lightweight 3, racing exhaust, full engine balance, port polish, sports ROM, turbo stage 2. Normal tires.
163bhp 631kg 1395mm

Most of you should have at least one of these cars in your garage. They're all available as prize cars early in the game, so you won't even have to run them in, unless you sold all three.

I'd like to see a balanced field, and all the cars are a similar performance, so we'll try to organise it so we have a system everyone (GB?) can understand. The cars can be picked in groups of three, once all three have been chosen, you can pick from the list again.

So GB24hours has picked the Suzuki, Santiago22 has the Diahatsu and Boatdriver has gone for the Mini. Next round, rikki has chosen the Suzuki.

Extra rule: At any time someone can nominate the steward for a car in order to influence the car they get.

Settings: TCS and ASM at your discretion.

The Race: Arcade / Free run. Laps must be 100% wall-free.

Discussion: You are free to discuss settings, cars and T2 times.

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Time submission: Send times to wastegate(at)ntlworld.com by Sunday 5th September 23:59.59 board time
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Cars chosen
HareTurtle - Suzuki
Santiago22 - Diahatsu
Boatdriver - Mini

rikki - Suzuki.
GT3mich - Mini
Wastegate - Daihatsu

eggmann - Mini
Famine - Daihatsu
Tuscan S - Suzuki

Der Alta - Mini

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TUSCAN S
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posted 08-30-2004 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TUSCAN S   Click Here to Email TUSCAN S     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Hmm...
What strategy will deliver me from driving the suitcases= getting me the mini...

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posted 08-30-2004 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GT3mich   Click Here to Email GT3mich     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Go ahead Tuscan. Take the Diahatsu. You know you want too. Be a good sport. Go ahead. Take it.

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GB24Hours
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posted 08-30-2004 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GB24Hours   Click Here to Email GB24Hours     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Since I'm the 3rd post, I'll take the Suzuki.

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Santiago22
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posted 08-30-2004 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Santiago22     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
OH SNAP, GB's actually gonna run a race!!!

I'll take a Daihatsu.

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posted 08-30-2004 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BoatDriver   Click Here to Email BoatDriver     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Guess that puts me in a mini!

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posted 08-30-2004 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rikki   Click Here to Email rikki     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Dang!! I wanted a mini! Guess I've got the Suzuzki.

btw, we (wife and I) have ordered a mini in RL. Expecting her around the first of October. Will post some photos of it. New color too - it's called "Purple Haze"

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posted 08-30-2004 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TUSCAN S   Click Here to Email TUSCAN S     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Hey Kev, would you elaborate on the rules, please!
Seems to me, somebodys got something wrong,
(or am I stuck with a suitcase
btw: nice car Rikki-congrats!!!
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WasteGate
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posted 08-30-2004 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WasteGate   Click Here to Email WasteGate     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I thought the rules were quite clear! Tuscan S understood them, and in his second language too

I've modified the rules to make them retrospectively fit what people have already chosen.

Just wait 'till I run my next Spot Race - nobody is going to understand that one

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GT3mich
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posted 08-30-2004 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GT3mich   Click Here to Email GT3mich     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Mini for me please

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eggmann
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posted 08-30-2004 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eggmann     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I nominate the Steward to drive the Diahatsu, and I'll start off Round 3 with a Mini.

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posted 08-30-2004 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WasteGate   Click Here to Email WasteGate     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Somehow I thought I'd end up with the Diahatsu.

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GT3mich
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posted 08-30-2004 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GT3mich   Click Here to Email GT3mich     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Damn you Ryan. You know I can't beat you in the Mini.

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GB24Hours
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posted 08-30-2004 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GB24Hours   Click Here to Email GB24Hours     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I understood the rules just fine.... but I figured people would just waste too much time pussyfooting around.... in effect, nobody was going to start things off. So I sort-of forced the issue.

If the Steward wants to revert to the original rules and make people tow the line, then I think that is within his right.

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posted 08-30-2004 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GT3mich   Click Here to Email GT3mich     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Lets not start this all over again.

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Santiago22
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posted 08-30-2004 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Santiago22     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
How about getting a steward to post one specific car, instead of trying to get a varied field by posting 3 to 5 cars and asking people to make sure all of them get picked.

I thought the point of competition was to win.


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posted 08-31-2004 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Famine     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I think I'll take the Daihatsu...

Hello, everyone Since GTP's down - for the foreseeable future, I thought I might have a crack at this, if that's okay with you all.

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posted 08-31-2004 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TUSCAN S   Click Here to Email TUSCAN S     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Right-OK-Suzuki then

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posted 08-31-2004 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WasteGate   Click Here to Email WasteGate     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Welcome to the Numbers spot races Famine, hope you have fun. You should find it a little less intense than much of the racing at GTP, our races are often quite lighthearted.

I'm happy to go with the flow as far as car selection goes. All three cars are now available as we've just completed a set.

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posted 08-31-2004 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GT3mich   Click Here to Email GT3mich     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Wow! Two GT boards down in one week.

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Sukerkin
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posted 08-31-2004 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sukerkin   Click Here to Email Sukerkin     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
WARNING OFF-TOPIC RAMBLING

Hello Famine. Nice to see you again my friend.

Heard anything from Duke, Alex or Sage lately (the WRL seemed to have flatlined as of a post (by you)) quite a while ago)? The last I heard of Gil was that he took part in one of those 'I-link' competitions they've been having in America - he seemed to enjoy himself thoroughly .

Bad news about GTP - I hope they get it sorted out (and maybe it'll bump start us into getting the WRL moving again).

Anyhow, I'd better duck out before someone makes me drive a low HP FF car (bet they'd make it a YELLOW one too LOL).

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posted 08-31-2004 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Famine     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sukerkin:
Heard anything from Duke, Alex or Sage lately (the WRL seemed to have flatlined as of a post (by you)) quite a while ago)?

I think it was the magic phrase "Special Stage Route 11 Reverse" that did it - one of my favourite tracks in the game as you probably know.

Bunch of Jessies...

But no - not a peep. Duke and Sage seem to have lost all interest in the fun part of the game. Perhaps their interest will be rejuvenated when GT4 comes out, and we can cane them live


Wastegate - So can I expect to see a no-holds barred Test Course/TS020 spot race then?

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GT3mich
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posted 08-31-2004 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GT3mich   Click Here to Email GT3mich     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Actually, We ran a no holds barred I-link race at the Test Course in the TS020. The first 4 laps averaged 211mph with everyone drafting each other, until we got to the final lap. Everybody slowed dowm, 180 mph, trying to avoid being in 1st or even 3rd place. Slowpoke was laying in 4th with just the final turn to go but I managed slow enough to get behind him and drafted all three cars to get the win by .2xx something. It was a blast!

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posted 08-31-2004 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Famine     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GT3mich:
Actually, We ran a no holds barred I-link race at the Test Course in the TS020. The first 4 laps averaged 211mph with everyone drafting each other, until we got to the final lap. Everybody slowed dowm, 180 mph, trying to avoid being in 1st or even 3rd place. Slowpoke was laying in 4th with just the final turn to go but I managed slow enough to get behind him and drafted all three cars to get the win by .2xx something. It was a blast!


Yep - Wastegate had a 12-driver no-holds barred TS020 iLink championship. I came 3rd

In the first race, daan got dropped off the back of the pack and just couldn't catch up. So he span it around and went the other way. I was spectating, so saw it coming (and kept my mouth shut). None of the other drivers did until it was too late. Closing speed of 400mph...

On my first race (my first "race" with a wheel too), two people did the same thing, and I managed to weave between them - about 2 seconds apart - so they took out the person behind me...

After the morning of iLink - and the two heart attacks I nearly had - it was quite a welcome diversion

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posted 08-31-2004 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HareTurtle   Click Here to Email HareTurtle     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Another GTP refugee washes up on the beach. We've got to quit meeting like this!

If I've interpreted the rules correctly, car choice is open for the tenth driver. In that case, I'll give the Suzuki a go.

@ GT3mich: It's a pity your gracious offer was not accepted. Perhaps karma ain't entirely hypothetical.

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posted 08-31-2004 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GT3mich   Click Here to Email GT3mich     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HareTurtle:

@ GT3mich: It's a pity your gracious offer was not accepted. Perhaps karma ain't entirely hypothetical.


The sad thing is that Kent did accept the offer. He just didn't act on it.

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posted 08-31-2004 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GT3mich   Click Here to Email GT3mich     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I'm not going to run the WRS for him. The series relies on pm submition, not email, so now its too late to email everyone that was racing. It will just have to wait until GTPlanet gets back up. Kent may not even know why GTPlanet is down. I do thanks to Famine.
Next time plan ahead. I tried.

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posted 08-31-2004 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GB24Hours   Click Here to Email GB24Hours     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
I hate to do this, but with preparations for Hurricaine Frances going on, I'm pretty sure my plans of running this on Friday night are out the window.

Apologies to WasteGate for barging in here, messing up his rules, and then turning tail to leave. Not very cool on my part.

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posted 09-01-2004 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Santiago22     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GB24Hours:
Apologies to WasteGate for barging in here, messing up his rules, and then turning tail to leave. Not very cool on my part.

Well Glenn, I think we can all agree that the safety of your family is of far more important than your entering a spot race. Good luck to you with Francis, and don't be such a stranger around here!

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posted 09-01-2004 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Famine     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HareTurtle:
Another GTP refugee washes up on the beach. We've got to quit meeting like this!

Pfft. I was a GTF refugee long before I was a GT3Times refugee and only now am a GTP refugee...

If I don't keep driving I get crap. Well, crapper. If I don't have a spot race to keep me driving, I play Vice City...

So you've got the dubious privilege of having me for a week...

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posted 09-01-2004 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GT3mich   Click Here to Email GT3mich     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
At least we don't make you qualify before hand Famine

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posted 09-01-2004 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Famine     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
GTP Newflash: There's a temporary forum, accessible through the http://www.gtplanet.org/ link, which contains a little bit of news (and a great deal of spam... I'll pretend to be shocked later). Jordan may be able to get hold of his new server in the next day or so, but GTP will be a month-old backup.

Anyway... back on-topic...

Are we allowed/encouraged/invited to discusss our T1/2/3 split times here? I've done a few runs and got a lap with about a second to shave off it.

Learns how to read...

Hmm. T2 time is in the region of 1'25.0. Anyone else?

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posted 09-01-2004 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Der Alta   Click Here to Email Der Alta     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Ever have that feeling you left a town full of good people to head out to the big city? Had a blast while you were there, and didn't miss the slow and easy attitude of the town. Only to take a trip back in the near future and wondered why you ever left?

In other words, I'm hoping to jump in here and steward a race or two.

If HareTurtle picked the Suzuki, that means I have a choice of the Diahatsu or the MIni? If so, I'll take the mini.

Off topic... Sukerkin, glad to see your still around. Life on my part has been a tad busy. In order to catch up on everything I need to get done, I'd have to give up anything I enjoy doing.

Hope all is well, See you out there.

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posted 09-01-2004 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GT3mich   Click Here to Email GT3mich     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
You can have any of the posted cars you want Alex. Enjoy!

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posted 09-02-2004 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HareTurtle   Click Here to Email HareTurtle     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Famine:
Hmm. T2 time is in the region of 1'25.0. Anyone else?

Only if "region" is defined fairly broadly. I've run as low as 32.32 and 1:25.66, but best clean lap is more like 1:26.0.

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I can crack through in 1'24s now, with high 31s for the T1.

Although looking at the stats, I've got the car with the most power AND highest PWR. But you picked first so :P

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posted 09-02-2004 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Der Alta   Click Here to Email Der Alta     Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Took two runs at it this morning before leaving for work. First run was in teh 1'29 range, the next run was in the 1'27 range. IT's a change to shift from UB's high powered FR cars to a low powered FF car. Can you say "tickle" the throttle?

If this weekend is more open (except for Sunday afternoon: hint, instant race) I''l get a few more laps in.

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board ate my post. no time to redo. maybe later.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by HareTurtle:
[B] Only if "region" is defined fairly broadly. I've run as low as 32.32 and 1:25.66, but best clean lap is more like 1:26.0.


currently my best is around 1.25,3 T2, but I`ve got a T1 of 33,1, so apparently, thats where I`ve gotta improve.
(took more than 10 runs to get a clean lap, I keep scaping the left wall,just before the "tunnel")


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Having a fun go at this. Been a while since I've had the chance to enjoy a race.

Quick update 32.371, 1'26.259. I've surpassed my expected time, so I've set the bar a bit higher now.

More to come...

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